Seems like PR has a real value after all (Putting Matt Cutts' words to the test)

Ok, Matt Cutts gave a talk at Wordcamped, where he leaked out, that page rank at least affects crawl rate.

If anybody is interested, I did a little analysis of the crawl rate depending on PR, by comparing a PR5 with a PR3 website. There were quite a number of things to consider for doing this, so I'll have to refer to my blog for the results, instructions and tools used.

For those wanting the ultra short and totally inaccurate summary: Going from PR3 to PR5 increases crawl rate by about factor three (don't quote me on that, though)

 

It's been long established that PR affects crawl rate.

 

pr is dependant on similar factors as positions on google so they depend on same things.

 

OK
since this discussion about PR
Let me tell you my experience
I have this career website which ranks first for its primary keyword
The competition is hot with few industry leaders there, while my offline business for the same is ranked 3rd in the country, but the online part ranked number 1 with google and that pissed off my competitors
My site was a PR6 then, my competitors came up with a grand idea, they reported me for link sales (their administrator currently works for me, so i m aware of it)
Guess what, google took it for granted and my PR was scaled down to PR3 in the next update and then PR0 later and since last one year or so the domain is a PR0
But to my competitors horror, my site never lost rankings, it remained there and still remains, but with no PR
Of course i never made an effort to increase it, as it is doing no harm to my business nor am i selling links
PR is useful as far as link sales or domain sales are concerned, else it does no harm to your skin

It might be affecting crawl rate, but does it affect rankings, NO, IMO

 

i know of a similar case as Cash.. reported, but in my niche, someone was in fact selling links, google discovered it or he as reported or whatever, lost all his page rank but his site is still number one 8-10 months later for many competitive keywords in the niche.

and yes pagerank does affect crawl rank, thanks for that confirmation from cutts

 

Pr affects crawl rate? I didn't know about that, so I'd go for PR I guess, if just for that reason. Especially since I own blogs.

 

PR DOES EFFECT RANKINGS

PR DOES EFFECT RANKINGS

PR DOES EFFECT RANKINGS

Thought I would say it 3 times, so it sticks. I have even read a Google FAQ that states the above.

Domain PR and page PR do make a huge difference, hence why links like Angelas packets on WF etc do so well.

 

it does not
but the factors that affect ranking are very simmilar to the factors affecting pagerank so you and a lot of guys say that pr influence it
no pr itself by the factors that effect pr itself

 

YES IT DOES.

Pr does influence rankings, I cant be bothered to find the official Google FAQ that proves you wrong. PR does matter.

There is a lot of talk about PR doesnt matter except for links which is a load of crap.

People say 'I can outrank a PR5 site' however it is probably because that PR5 site isnt trying to rank for that particular term. At the end of the day, if you have:-

PR6 domain site with PR5 ranking page

Vs

PR4 domain site with PR3 ranking page

And even the PR4 domain has more links, then the higher PR site will outrank all the time.

All of you newbs who dont understand PR will never compete for highly competitive terms.

I occupy 1st page Google spots for several one word and two word keywords which advertisers pay an average of $1k daily each to advertise at top of Google.

For all you non believers, I cant be bothered to persuade otherwise. You can carry on being losers, while I take all the rankings and money.

Peace out.

 

i believe you are wrong. one simple fact - if you would be right than there will not be pr2 sites over pr3 sites on google. you can find such examples very easily.

pr is only external value that can give webmaster aproximite prediction how good website is promoted. nothing more.

 

Oh god..... You know nothing.

I cant be bothered to prove you wrong. I have money to make with my 6 sites on 1st page Google for highly profitable terms. Good luck trying to rank for your long tailed keywords like 'Pink chestnut ridge cabinet with attached drawers'

LOL.

 

good for you that you have money

if you are nervouse you have to consult the doctor perhaps - but is not very good to comunicate on the forum withour respect to other people.

 

If you have money, are you willing to make a bet on this? Say $50?

 

You seem very convinced I see. You take a website for Golf Clothing, and then go get links from Woman Jewelry site with high PR pointing to your golf clothing site, while I will take a golf clothing website, point links from lower PR sites but that are related to golf ... we will see how much those lovely high PR links will effect your rankings within the first quarter.

P.S. PageRank may affect rankings but doubt it can effect rankings.

 

yes, sure my mistake in spelling.

 

I agree with your statement, completely. Those who chase PR are wasting valuable time, unless as you say they are actually selling it. G decided to stop the madness, and they did. And I'm happy that they did. I used to get 20 link exchange requests a day on my pr6 site. What a pain! Good bye PR and good riddance.

/*tom*/

 

What do you mean by Crawl rate ? Does it mean the time it takes for Google to index your article after you have posted it ?

 

I'd put a "Proudly PR0" website on it just to upset them even more.

 

Yh , IF check through Google toolbar can see last crawl date, Google knows the data of the site while crawl only..To increase the rate the site need to be updated frequently

 

No, crawl rate is how often the Google Bot visits your website. It does so more often, if you have a higher ranking. A high crawl rate shortens the time for getting something indexed, though.