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Suggestion Scammers Section

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by !!!!!What!!!!!, Aug 3, 2009.

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  1. #1
    Hey all mods and admin

    How about creating a new forum for "Scammers"

    All people will come to know of all scammers in DP.
     
    !!!!!What!!!!!, Aug 3, 2009 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    Even better idea would be to just ask everyone when they register if they are a scammer, then just don't let those people use the B/S/T section. Then no scammers in there and it would be automatic.
     
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  3. MrHarper

    MrHarper Guest

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    I don't agree. It'll just fill up with accusations and complaints and arguments. If somebody scams you, and you have proof, then report it and they will be banned (and ofcourse, you can get your money back, and take it further if you like). If you are careful enough, then you will record every transaction you make online and so it'll be pretty hard for anybody to scam you.

    In my opinion, this wouldn't be a good move.
     
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  4. mdvasanth86

    mdvasanth86 Notable Member

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    Phew!
    I agree with shawn.
    How will you classify scammers??
    What is considered as Scam??
    Who will decide, what is scam??
     
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  5. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #5
    You're not allowed to start threads to accuse people of being scammers, so there's no need for their own section. If you have a negative experience in a business deal with a member, that's what in-thread reviews and iTrader are for.
     
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    SkullKing Guest

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    How about banning people with more than -5 iTrader from the BST forum.
     
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  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #7
    You would just end up with people trying to create multiple accounts to get someone banned and causing more problems than it solves. iTrader is public, so let people make their own decisions if they want to deal with them imo.
     
    digitalpoint, Aug 3, 2009 IP
  8. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Within a limited time, I'd say that's not a bad idea. But if it's cumulative, maybe not (people who have been here for years could have had that many negatives if a single issue came up via one of their threads, even if they have dozens of positives since then). Other concern would be that it might cause people to leave more false negative in the hopes of having someone else banned. :( (EDIT: Shawn beat me to it.)
     
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  9. phyza

    phyza Well-Known Member

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    I think so you are right so it's not a good idea. Everyone should just leave a negative itrader so that people get warned of scammers and deal on their own risk :)

     
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  10. !!!!!What!!!!!

    !!!!!What!!!!! Banned

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    #10
    The section will have certain rules to guide users..This is just a suggestion
     
    !!!!!What!!!!!, Aug 4, 2009 IP
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    elitesystem Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree and indeed it has happened alot. You are not voting out members from DP with giving negative traders; i guess thats not how it works here :)
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #12
    That rule is one of the main reasons DP has become such a haven for Internet scammers.

    A community needs to be able to defend itself and the current DP rules make that much more difficult.

    The suggestion that iTrader is a replacement for public flogging of scammers is similar to suggesting that people should fight crime with pillows. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    It would be incredibly foolish to actually encourage potentially libelous accusations (and we get a lot of that). That's doubly true in new threads where the other party may not even be made aware to defend themselves. It's beyond inappropriate for people to accuse someone of being a scammer based on one side of a story from a deal that happened to go bad (in many cases because they failed to properly research someone before doing business with them). Staff here doesn't have the time or desire to police such things. We don't get involved in private business disputes, and with two options available and allowable for negative reviews people already have outlets for sharing their claims without causing an additional burden. If they've done business here, they can leave their experience in the deal thread in addition to iTrader. If others choose not to search for someone's past threads for reviews before working with them, frankly, it's not our problem if their irresponsibility leaves them in a bad spot. The vast majority of claims we see cannot be verified, and when they can be (as in selling warez or something), then they should be reported directly to moderators for action.
     
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    We can't categorized who are the scammers and others. It depends on users deals. As Mods said, we better check itrades before making a dealing with a DP member. I have seen these kind of scammer sections in Money exchanging and warez forums. But DP is not a forum like those kind of sites.

    Thanks
    Blog.
     
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  15. sawz

    sawz Prominent Member

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    Caveat emptor, centuries old.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #16
    If would be a lot easier for buyers to be beware if we could share data on scammers through a system richer with data capabilities than iTrader.

    For example, iTrader doesn't work at all on deals negotiated through PM. If you use iTrader for that, you're setting yourself up to be banned.
     
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  17. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is definitely good to share information on scammers. Problem is there are too many people with axes to grind. As pointed out earlier, that can lead to a lot of libel suits which really isn't what a forum is looking for.
     
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    That... is HILARIOUS. How to get scammers to admit they are scammers, that would be the cool trick right there. "Hey, how you all doin', wanna buy some really fantastic ebook that tells you how to do nothing and make millions?" I think the liable problem aspect is probably correct thinking, but I doubt if any of these people can afford attorneys to sue anyone.

    What is even more humorous is the guy starting the thread gets banned. Now that there is comedy.
     
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  19. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I think that what the OP means are the victims identifying the scammers, not the scammers coming out to confess.....

     
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    I think you can report any post that does not follow the roles - Thx
     
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