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Page Rank is it 50% of all traffic? says Matt Cutz....

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Aaron111, Jul 31, 2009.

  1. sleuth1

    sleuth1 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Anyone notice anything unusual about the above quote :confused: ? I would like my signature to show up in quotes to, please :D
     
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  2. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    AGAIN the pr in your browser may not be real... say top SEO analysis...
     
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    goodfta Active Member

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    #23
    well if mats says it, can it be wrong? :)_
     
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  4. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    all the seo people know what tactics they use just to get it... why? because so called webmasters are always scraping the web for the site with high PR ...... no why so.... and some pr dont matter? be realistic my friends....
     
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  5. Dan Schulz

    Dan Schulz Peon

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    Aaron, I know you've been reading my posts for the past year, but you keep missing my point. KEYWORD DENSITY IS NONSENSE, and PageRank is not worth chasing after. Now, let me say this one last time. PageRank != Traffic. It simply used to be an indiator of how popular a Web page was based on the number, quality and relevance of the links that were pointing to it.

    Of course that was BEFORE all these so-called "SEO experts" started manipulating the system (and everything else the search engines implemented to improve the quality of their search results).

    So you're saying I'm wasting my breath and my time trying to tell you the TRUTH? That it's just 1 of about 200 or so factors that determine your rankings? Have you ever thought that the traffic might come from people clicking on the links to your Web site and not the PR of the pages within your site?

    Okay, that made about as much sense as anything Robert Gibbs tries to say during a press conference. Seriously, I have no idea what you just tried to say.

    And yet pages with low PageRanks can and often DO beat pages with higher PageRanks. Why? Because the pages are MORE RELEVANT and depending on the page may have links that have better quality and are more relevant than the links that were obtained simply because they (or their site's home page) had a high PageRank.

    And as far as I'm concerned, the whole "more you pay the more you see" baloney with regard to AdWords is just that - a myth. Nonsense. Kind of like keyword density (kudos to Dr. E. Garcia for writing that article). Why do I feel this way? Because Pay Per Click is NOT search optimization - it's search marketing. It also has nothing to do with link devleopment or content promotion.

    Usually when I'm blasting someone (like you right now) I'm doing so to clean out the garbage that some SEO "experts" and "gurus" pass along as "secret knowledge" so it can be replaced with real facts. I'm like a Marine Corps drill sargeant in that respect. You could say that I'm tearing you down before rebuilding you into a lean mean search engine optimizing machine.

    So please, don't take it personally.

    Or choose keywords that have high search volumes that are easier to rank for instead of just going after the "big" keywords in each niche and a handfull of long-tails while calling it SEO.

    Something I actually agree with him on. And I don't agree with him most of the time, either.

    Pretty much.

    You mean feared the same way the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man was before Gozer turned it into a 100 foot tall walking instrument of mayhem and world destruction in the movie "Ghostbusters"?

    And yet here I am saying "relevance relevance relevance".

    Oh, it's real. It's just OLD. A snapshot back in time. Need I bring up the examples of Eta Carinae and Betelgeuse again?

    And yet I don't give a damn about PageRank. It's not the end-all be-all that many "SEO experts" and "gurus" mistakenly make it out to be.
     
    Dan Schulz, Aug 3, 2009 IP
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    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    @dan schultz

    You are my hero. I could NOT have said it better myself and agree totally. FINALLY someone that understands WTF is going on! LOL
     
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  7. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    #27
    politically PR incorrect ..... and of all information latter's.... I climb in search... this is no myth as you might procrastinate... the efforts of your judgmental call...... in the most respectable view is seo PR is for Google keep it in mind... as I said.... pr is for Google....
     
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    abrilward Peon

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    #28
    It is still important.. People (website owner) will exchange links with you if you have high PR..
     
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  9. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    traffic might come from people clicking on the links to your Web site and not the PR of the pages within your site

    that's powerful insight ..... only a seo can offer ..
     
    Aaron111, Aug 4, 2009 IP
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Great, lets all chase after PR again! By the way, the PR in your toolbar is not the real PR! Well that makes your whole argument work, doesn't it. No one but Google knows what your real PR is so there's no way of proving that PR = traffic or proving PR != traffic. That makes this argument pointless.
     
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    web-fanatic Banned

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    #31
    Matt cutt once said that more than 100+ are considered for ranking :)
     
    web-fanatic, Aug 4, 2009 IP
  12. Dan Schulz

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    #32
    I don't know why I'm doing this but I'm taking great pleasure in shooting holes in other peoples' "logic" lately. Time for another salvo, I guess.

    Pretend I have two apples that were picked a month apart. One was a month ago, the other this morning. If I were to give you the old apple and say that it looked like the new apple when it was picked, is it any less real? Of course not. All it means is that the old apple rotted and is no longer edible.

    Take my analogy and combine it with my previous statement - I think it more than proves that PR != Traffic quite easily. Simple common sense, really.
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    So, because you can see last month's apples you can tell which ones are more juicy?
    Remember those are last month's apples you are comparing. :(
     
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  14. Dan Schulz

    Dan Schulz Peon

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    Well, would you rather eat a fresh or rotten apple? It really comes down to that.
     
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  15. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Ide say that thats a good way to display the myth of why PR is so darn niche... the more factors are uncovered here at DP........ based on why we thread is to boost PR and hopefully grab some traffic in the serps......... currently since I started this thread," factors are still becoming noted..... Ive documented them in a nut shell ..... chasing PR is like chasing a duck in a swamp....... you almost get it then you sink........ wow this thread give all experts more reason to blast PR.... if you shoot your self in the foot over it you know it aint wirth the hassles..........

    here are some outlying factors

    1.blog commating for pagerank site
    2.participate in dofollow forums
    3.do dofollow social bookmarking sites
    4.do some pagerank directories
    5.article submission

    if you have time to then maybe it can happen right>>>>>>> I dont care who you are online..." in seo" and Google PR the race is never ending....
     
    Aaron111, Aug 7, 2009 IP