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This made me chuckle

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by syted, Jul 29, 2009.

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    Looking at the user-contributed banners and buttons in DMOZ there's a horrible blue text on white background one towards the bottom of the page. 'if you can't get the "yahoos" to list your site...' 'what makes you think they listed what you are lookin for?'

    I just think it's unfortunate that this reads to me that there is a connection between the directory listing your submitted site and the value of the listed sites.
     
    syted, Jul 29, 2009 IP
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    websys Active Member

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    User contributed banners are exactly what they say they are - User Contributed , which means they don't represent any official communication.
     
    websys, Jul 29, 2009 IP
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Actually they do... as someone from the ODP had to of said at some point "yeah, that one is good enough to add to the site" and then added it to the ODP banner list.
     
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    websys Active Member

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    When do you think you can grow up to say something sensible , Q and not just open your mouth about something you don't know ?
    The official and endorsed way to link to the ODP is given here http://www.dmoz.org/link.html , hence the name of the page.
    It additionally contains link to the user contributed images , to honor the contribution of its editors over the years.
    Just like Firefox suggests proper use of its logos and does not endorse other faulty user contributed ones.
     
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    makrhod Peon

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    Yes, some volunteer editor probably did add it to the list at some stage.
    That still doesn't make it "official" in any respect at all.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Oh wow, I bet someone from DMOZ added all that as well :rolleyes:

    How is it nonsensical to say that someone from the ODP had to approve that banner?

    Soooooo, let me get this straight now.

    There is NO PLACE to get official word from DMOZ! Not even the ODP site itself.

    If something is on DMOZ.org, then I have been always told that is official on some level, as that is generally the reply I have gotten when I have posted links to RZ or editor blogs... now you are saying that some editor changed a page? Well, if some editor have that power, why are there still issues with the guidelines, why would something like that banner still be there? Why was the last update in 2003? At the very least, if an editor has access to that page, they could at least add the www. to the links to reflect the changes that staff has made with their redirect.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 30, 2009 IP
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    Think of it this way Q :
    Youtube.com contains innumerable porn videos , some of which shows b**bs and other unmentionables .
    Rapidshare.com is the home of allmost 10% of porn on the internet nowadays
    Orkut.com contains some of the biggest hate and anti-religious communities.

    Is it your opinion that all these are endorsed by Youtube.com , Rapidshare.com and Orkut Facebook.

    My version and I daresay many others would agree , that such files and representation is simply there because all these websites JUST LIKE DMOZ , allows and invites Open contribution and participation and does not have the resources to verify USER CONTRIBUTED files.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    But as Makrhod said it was probably added by an editor, which is different to the Yahoo etc. examples you gave where the files would be added by an unknown person.

    I'm not anti-DMOZ at all, I generally support the effort of the directory and its editors. I'm just surprised an editor could produce that button if they understand the aims of the directory, and that it wasn't picked up by a senior editor.

    I'm also surprised by your aggressive defense of a simple oversight.
     
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    websys Active Member

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    Maybe because you missed the line :
    :)
    Just because a Google search results includes sites containing pornography even when you have the Age Filter on , does not mean Google endorses Porn or Warez , per se.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    YES! ~ When put up by staff of said sites (volunteers included). If just ANYTHING can go on that page, then by rights there would be several that would claim "DMOZ SUX"


    SOMEONE from Dmoz added those banners regardless of who made them!
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 30, 2009 IP
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    There are only so many "senior editors", and an infinite number of tasks requiring attention by volunteers when they feel so inclined.
    I doubt that checking everything in the banner collection is very high on anyone's list, but when it is, I'm sure it will be fixed. :)
    As with all such QC issues in DMOZ, there are several ways of reporting it, but this thread is not really the most effective. I agree it's an amusing oversight, though, like the people who repeatedly rant about the OPD (sic) and all it stands for. I always want to reply "Yes, down with OPD and all other typos!!" :D
     
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    Whoever put it there has a better sense of humor than most of the folks in the thread. Look at the message again... it's got a point. If they don't have the one you want added... will they have added the one you want to find find?

    Just a bit of a brain teaser. Thought provoking maybe, but not incendiary. Lighten up everyone... this isn't exactly life or death. :)
     
    robjones, Jul 30, 2009 IP