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Hidden Links...how can google not detect this?

Discussion in 'Google' started by Brinked, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. #1
    I am baffled at how google's spider can not detect a hidden link if a link is inside a div positioned outside the range of an actual page.

    Take this site for example: http://www.lissaexplains.com/index.shtml

    if you view the source at the very top you will see html as such:

    
    <style>#ads, #ads a{font-size:8px;position:absolute;margin-top:-50px;}</style>
    <div id="ads"><a href="http://www.cool-juice.com">free alltel ringtones</a><a href="http://www.freealtonia.com">free verizon ringtones</a><a href="http://www.the-movie-library.com">free movies</a><a href="http://www.musfiesta.com">free mp3</a></div>
    <script>document.getElementById('ads').style.top='-50px';</script>
    
    HTML:
    The style is being set for #ads to an absolute position outside the website boundaries, and then applied to the div containing those links. This website also has this same technique applied throughout the page.

    I am shocked that google does not automatically look for this, or maybe it has detected it and has decided to allow it.
     
    Brinked, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    Yes that is a brutal example of a hidden link. It is pretty tricky coding for Google to detect though. If we applied the position style right in the div tag it would probably be easier to detect, but he made a point of changing the style outside of the div. To detect this Google would have to jump back and forth in the code. By trying to detect this they may wrongly penalize someone who has a legitimate reason to move a div way off screen.
     
    vansterdam, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  3. WishBone

    WishBone Peon

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    #3
    Surely sooner or later this will be noticed by Google, don't out think big G didn't know that. This kind of shortcuts will not surely lasts.
     
    WishBone, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  4. mehreiran

    mehreiran Peon

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    #4
    I think google will be find and give a negative point to site.
     
    mehreiran, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  5. jingwen

    jingwen Peon

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    I think google will find it in the future.
     
    jingwen, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  6. ronakbhagdev

    ronakbhagdev Peon

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    #6
    I only want to say...
    "Google is Grandfather and we are his Grandson" :)

    Now a days Google is also crawling your stylesheet.
     
    ronakbhagdev, Feb 12, 2009 IP
  7. Brinked

    Brinked Well-Known Member

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    #7
    google can easily find a style thats applied to a div...a style position such as this one should throw up a red flag and should be added to a list for at least a manual review.
     
    Brinked, Feb 14, 2009 IP
  8. networkangel

    networkangel Banned

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    #8
    Im sure Google will soon find them and penialise them for this, only a matter of time. Google knows everything. Hidden text is a major penalty, which will end up giving that website the "Page 6 Penalty"
     
    networkangel, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  9. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #9
    Hello...

    One must be careful anymore as some scripts offer to remove there link
    for a set price then you find it still there "hidden within the script"

    We just found a hidden link in ours after checking this thread and why i commented..

    laterz
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  10. Nystul

    Nystul Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Hidden links = 1 way ticket to be banned
     
    Nystul, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  11. rabble

    rabble Greenhorn

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    There are legitimate reasons to have both hidden divs and divs that are located off screen. If google were to really slap sanctions on every such use we might as well say good-bye to both artistry and interactivity on the web.
     
    rabble, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  12. grg

    grg Guest

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    #12
    Couple of stinky fishes in whole ocean... who cares.
     
    grg, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  13. thetafferboy83

    thetafferboy83 Active Member

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    #13
    Submit a spam report from the Google Webmaster console. There's a specific drop down for hidden links.
     
    thetafferboy83, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  14. AlbertMARKET

    AlbertMARKET Peon

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    #14
    Anything that violates Google's TOS will eventually meet into bad consequences for your website. I say play legit and not spend your time on what if's and stick to their TOS. Getting banned from the big G will cripple your website by a lot.
     
    AlbertMARKET, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  15. rabble

    rabble Greenhorn

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    and I guess I'm just baffled why you care soo much about what lissa does.
     
    rabble, Jun 29, 2009 IP
  16. abiel

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    You can't hide any hidden links in google spider and also to other search engine spider. Spiders can still see that links as long as it's a live link.
     
    abiel, Jun 29, 2009 IP