My site has 200,000 uniques/month. How do I make money with it?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by TeloRunner, Jun 19, 2009.

  1. seawind

    seawind Active Member

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    #21
    Google adwords
     
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  2. belakepare

    belakepare Well-Known Member

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    #22
    try adsense for domain
     
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  3. FreeWebTrafficOnline.com

    FreeWebTrafficOnline.com Peon

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    #23
    What is your blog about? What is the content? The best way to get a good CTR is to make sure All your Banners and Advertising, are directly related to your content, or as close as possible. Adsense is great for this, however, it does have some quarks. Also, banner & ad placement are important. There is no exact science on placement, however placing ads near the main topic, under pictures, right column of your site and near the main points of your blog, should also get you a higher CTR.. Please feel free to PM us if you would like some help. We are more than happy to give you an overview on your site..

    Keep changing things up over time to see what works for you, its amazing what small changes can do sometimes..

    How this helps... :)
     
  4. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    When I read that, all I wanted to do was laugh. You are able to build a site that gets 200,000 uniques per month, but you do not know how to put an ad on your site?

    Personally, I think this is a troll thread.

    With 200,000 uniques per month, that puts your site in the top 10,000 sites on the internet. That means your right there next to sites like citigroup.com, marketwire.com and cosmogirl.com.

    Source - http://www.quantcast.com/top-sites-79

    So your telling this community that your site gets as much traffic as citigroup and cosmogirl. Both of which who have huge companies that promote the site. But somehow your can not make money with a few google adsense banners?

    Citibank at one time was a fortune 500 company. Which means it was one of the 500 largest companies in the world. And your site is getting as much traffic as citibank? But you can not make money no matter what you do?

    Please, if you "really" had 200,000 uniques a month you would be rolling in the money with just a couple of adsense banners.

    Digitalpoint gets an estimated 391.1K uniques per month - http://www.quantcast.com/digitalpoint.com

    http://www.bloggerscash.net/2008/03/successful-adsense-publishers.html

    In 2005 the digitalpoint traffic would have been a fraction of what it is right now.

    So I will say this one more time. If you were "really" getting 200,000 uniques per month. You would be doing something else instead of posting in this forum.
     
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  5. webcosmo

    webcosmo Notable Member

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    Is it like I got married but I don't know how to have sex:D
     
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  6. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    Advertising is already on the site. It has banner ads, but like I said in the original post banner ad revenue went down the tubes. I'm looking for other ways to expand the revenue.
     
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  7. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    #27

    According to Google Analytics it has 200,000 unique visitors a month. This number includes international traffic. Quantcast only counts US traffic to their rating, but my rating is over 20,000 there.

    If you're still not convinced I have a snapshot from Google Analytics. I can't post live links, but I'm happy to PM anyone the screenshot who doesn't believe me.

    The site has banner advertising, but like CPM rates have bottomed out. I'm looking for new ways to advertise and since Digitalpoint has a strong community of marketing experts I was hoping to get suggestions other Adsense.

    I've tried Adsense before, but the topic is not suited to Adsense. Each click is only worth a few cents, and that's if you put ads in between content which is annoying for readers. Adsense tends to have an inverse relationship. If your content leaves the reader looking for more people are more likely to click, but that's not how my site works.

    Also, I should have also said I have tech savvy audience so they know how to avoid things like Adsense.

    I admit I'm not a marketing expert. I focused my energy on creating a site with really good content so I have an audience. An advertising rep sells banner ads, but I posted here to learn new ways on how to monetize the site.

    Like I said I'm happy to trade traffic building tips to contribute to the community. :D
     
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  8. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    #28
    You get $400 a year per link? How did you find people that want to buy links?

    Does it have to be the domain or can it be a content page?
     
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  9. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    #29
    The topic is technology. I would say the traffic is targeted since the bulk isn't from Google. Most of the readers are repeat readers and drive the site. The second source of traffic is from other links. The site doesn't participate in traffic exchanges or anything like that either.

    Like I've said before there are banner ads, standard stuff like leaderboards and square ads. Google doesn't pay enough in the technology sector and since the readers are tech savvy they avoid the ads unless they're inside the post.

    When you mean sell stuff do you mean using things like Amazon?
     
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  10. DWDaily

    DWDaily Peon

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    #30
    Try some of the premium networks. If you are an entertainment site, then you might want to try joining MTV ad Network, its called tribe.
     
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  11. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    The site is working with a so called premium ad network, but I didn't know that MTV has their own network.

    Thanks :D. What other adnetworks are considered "premium"?
     
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  12. MediaMedia

    MediaMedia Active Member

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    #32
    Like I said I'm happy to trade traffic building tips to contribute to the community.

    Please PM some traffic tips.
     
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  13. zeekstern

    zeekstern Active Member

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    #33
    No, not Amazon:) Again, without knowing the subject matter it is very hard to offer good suggestions. You say technology. What kind? computers, cow crap, green, what??

    It really sounds like you have a gold mine in your hands. Geez, don't blow it. PM me if you want to.

    Good luck,
    Zeek
     
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  14. wwstewart

    wwstewart Well-Known Member

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    #34
    The flaw I'm seeing is that everyone wants to suggest ONE method to monetize.

    First, if you get that many uniques then why in the ever loving crap are you not running some CPM ads on that site? You need to set up an AdBrite account or something to cover that part. Also, with that many readers, you naturally should run something other than a couple CPM's, maybe some contextual, like Kontera (in addition to AdSense).

    Since it is a tech site, you should not completely overlook Amazon, but I would try to find something that pays out a bit more. Perhaps some kind of affiliate network with some tech stuff. You might check out John Chow's affiliate network. I don't know...since he runs The Tech Zone, I'm pretty sure he'd have some tech-related CPAs in there somewhere.

    The trick is not to find ONE method that works, but to make the most of SEVERAL methods. Diversify and conquer.

    PM me if you want to talk about this some more (anyone can PM me).
     
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  15. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    #35
    I'm happy to answer questions in the forum, but without knowing what your goals are its hard to give tips.
     
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  16. TeloRunner

    TeloRunner Peon

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    I guess technology is too vague a term. ;) Computers is the topic.
     
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    TeloRunner Peon

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    #37
    You're exactly right about having more than one stream. That's what I'm trying to figure out and why I made a post on Digital Point.

    I am running CPM banner ads with a premium agency leading the sales. However, banner ad CPMs and fill rates have dropped significantly so I'm trying to diversify.

    Aren't contextual ads annoying? Vibrant Media used to serve those, but many readers weren't fans of them. Also, the CPC rates for contextual ads dropped and few readers clicked on them since the readers are tech savvy so it wasn't worth while.

    I'll check out John Chow's tech network. I didn't know something like that existed. Thanks for that.
     
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  18. retsek

    retsek Peon

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    #38
    I have a similar site to yours which gets over 3 million page views per month.

    You need to find better networks. You gotta analyse your traffic and do plenty of testing.

    I use OpenX to manage everything. Out of my 3million pageviews ..about 75% of that comes from the US, Canada and UK. So I have OpenX deliver to these three country my CPM chain #1 which starts off with ADSDAQ then Burst Media then Morning Falls. (MF fills 100%, so there's nothing left over).

    ADSDAQ will let you set your own CPM rate. I set it to $1.50 and get 40-50% fill. Burst gives me $0.50-$0.75 CPM and MF around $0.25

    Another 15% of my traffic comes from a particular region of the world, so again I use Openx to send that traffic to a localized CPM company which pays fixed $1CPM. The remaining 10% of the traffic from other various countries gets sent to Mornings Falls again.

    The result is I hit $200+ PER DAY easily with just CPM banners and that still leaves room for me to run Adsense and Infolinks on half the pages.
     
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  19. wwstewart

    wwstewart Well-Known Member

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    #39
    I use ADSDAQ as well. I'm not making a killing with them, but I don't get a ton of traffic, either.

    Contextual ads can be annoying, but it kind of depends on how many you have on a page. Some sites seem to fit them in seamlessly. I can't think of the network, but one just has a dotted underline that looks quite nice (unlike Kontera - which I use, but has that double underline thing going on).

    John Chow's network is: http://www.ttzmedia.com/

    That is a good way to do it. You are making me wish I had that kind of traffic to my blog...heh.


    Man, we should write an ebook and sell it...lol.
     
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  20. makeingbank

    makeingbank Banned

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    #40
    DANG!! thats a lot of traffic, any tips for a guy with 2 blogs only getting 20 visits aday? :/
     
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