wrmineo condemned for ShoutWire Article

Zero............... that kind of speaks of it's self. I have never heard of you.

But I guess that is ok nobody has ever heard of me. But I tend not to cry around the Internet because some one spanked me.

Have a great day guys. just my 2 cents.

 

You're right about not owning SpankWire and thanks for confirming it, but yes I recognized your moniker there as being the same here from several months back when you came to DP showing your maturity then just as highly as you are now. However, SW and it's sister porn site are not mere affiliates now are they? They are in fact both owned by Wesley ...

Don't remember me? Never heard of me? Marijuana is tough on your short-term memory, but I don't see you mentioning that to the members of the forum you operate where people compare buds, bongs, and BS.

Of course, this probably wasn't you back in January just like SW didn't have porn on it.

It's too bad that the majority of the kids running SW aren't more composed, calm and collected like flatline over there.

I need a new lawyer? No, you can't find a good friend, professional and colleague that refuses your money because your both brothers of the same fraternity.

The title was changed by me, for me - not because I feared a lawsuit. Hell, I love lawsuits, they're some of the best advertising around. The fact is that in retrospect I did feel it was a little out of context and I'm not above taking onus for my actions.

I've not bested anyone nor claim to have done so - that's the dope talking again I guess, which is also giving you illusions of grandeur. What have you won? You continue to bump this thread, continue to comment on the SW editorial about me, and SW staff and members continue to visit and comment at the FreshDames blog - hell I'll publish every idiotic comment you want to make there; you're only continue to bring discredit to SW, bring more negative attention to yourself and SW, catch the attention of other Internet and offline media outlets, all the while pushing more traffic to the Google Blogspot. Yes you've won; roll another one.

 

Hey I did what tend to do when I have not heard of someone....I googled it.

here is the link for xx00zero

And just to be fair I googled wrmineo as well, click his name to see the results.



Now I am not the king of the Internet, but I do have two brain cell to rub together and it would seem to me if you look at both links wrmineo seem to me to be more widely known. IE. Results 1 - 10 of about 27,500 for wrmineo. (0.27 seconds)

and

Results 1 - 10 of about 21 for xx00zero. (0.29 seconds)


you do the math it is to hard for me.

just an observation

 

Ah hell, one more just for you guys to remember me by...

Obviously, you do only have two, because you still haven't figured out the difference between 0 and o.

You could have said that in the first place and none of this would have been neccessary. And Im the one they call "unprofessional".

BTW, You offer pics of underage celebs on your site. I don't know if you knew that or not.

Go ahead, spend another thirty minutes with your long winded ass replies. I'm going elsewhere. My work here is done.

 

Well Einstein your right !

Lets do it right

Here is the new link to the new search
Results 1 - 10 of about 905 for xxoozero. (0.12 seconds)

if you remember wrmineo had Results 1 - 10 of about 27,500 for wrmineo. (0.07 seconds) If you think you can add it up i still think he has you beat. anyone else see it different?

And as for me mixing up a 0 and o, you really have no room to talk at least I am smart enough to hit spellcheck.

Did anyone catch that Google must have heard of him, it says at the top of the page Did you mean: boozer ? LOL I guess if someone at Google really knew him it would have said Did you mean: looser

More to come...............

 

Zero,

If you represented my company I would fire you immediatly.

I don't care who's right at the moment. Suck it up and talk like how old you really are. I'm not even 20 and I don't need to resort to frivalous name calling

Now, while wrmineo may had created an article for "SHOCK value" you know that every news source does this. Newspapers do it all the time. Read one once in a while and you'll know what I mean.

Secondly, wrmineo can feel free to state his opinion. You obviously don't understand law (I'm not a lawyer but did take courses). Here's a refresher:

Slander is "words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another."What you think has been commited is called libel. That's a slander in written form."

So, what is the evidence against Shoutwire pretty good.

1) porn images, I've seen one that had actual male genetelia on it that linked to porn site.
2) I checked the cached pages and clicked on the site and it indeed was a porn site.
3)Now let's look at some cached pages.



Hmm and what have we here. Does that look like a vagina. While it's not real it leads to this site: fleshlight.com/main/build_your_own_1.php?ref=56217



That site is to build a man's sex toy. So while not porn it's definitely edgy and the ad was made to look like porn.

4) This is from an e-mail from a staff member at SW. If you want the e-mail cause you think I'm making it up, PM me.

"Before I saw the celebrity gossiper's blog link, I myself had noticed the
increasingly racy porn site ads on the front page"

Well. That settles it then. Doesn't it.

In a court of law, my friend the best defense to slander is: That's the truth. In this case Shoutwire was indeed linking to site's that delivered porn.

Now you can gawk and you can cry, but the proof is before you.

Skinny

 

Solid points and evidence Skinny.

I thought the relationship between ShoutWire and SpankWire was pretty damning evidence beyond coincidence, however ....

If you go back to those cached pages and do a properties on the ad, and then check out that link (of the advertiser) you'll find something else that I think goes way beyond coincidence.

It would appear that the claim of a loose cannon advertiser just got more holes - see the evidence and I think you'll be asking yourself, "Does Shoutwire Own a Porn Advertiser?"

 

It looks to me after doing a little searching that this has been going on for longer than just now it seems to be a problem that is just getting worse http://roostersrail.wordpress.com/2006/06/28/capitalism-in-the-face-of-content/ this blogger mentioned the problems that shoutwire is having way before wrmineo even got in on it.

I guess all the Kids over at shoutwire just need the money, regardless of who they have to offend or hurt to get it.

maybe if they just posted a paypal button on the home page they could get money to get the new xbox 360.

The fact is we all joke about these little boy wishing to be men, but the fact is that this really is a serious issue.

These kids were not hugged enough as babies or perhaps they were bottle fed.

xxoozero you are not mad at me....................... you are not even mad at wrmineo, your mad at your dad, PM me I can give you my aunts name she deals with adolescent deep seeded issues, perhaps she can help you.

just trying to help.

 

Well the idea of a female celebrity site is female celebrities. Are some of them under 18, yes a few of them are, but you won't find nudity or pornography there. And the funny thing is that tens of thousands of people each day visit FreshDames to see the celebrity pictures, read biographies, find relevant links and more ... all without pornography.

Does spikedhumor not have female celebrity photo galleries too? Doesn't SpikedH have nude galleries? Isn't SpikedH another "affiliate" site of SW? And everytime that they launch a new gallery, a front page article about it appears on SW - more shameless self-promotion that SW claims to hate.

You keep trying to make points that only come across as defensive and hypocritical. Are you done yet?

 

Sensationalized? yes. Lie? no. It was an editorial comment about what they saw, which was an a banner ad showing pictures of young girls in skimpy bathing suits that linked to a porn site. This fully insinuated kiddie porn and was a disgusting and misleading ad.

As others have pointed out you had better take some time to learn a little bit about the laws of our country and what slander really is. There isn't a court in this country that would convict on your claims because 1) it isn't slander if anything it is liable; 2) there is such a thing as the First Amendment and 3) the ad did contain pictures of young girls in bathing suits and it did link to a porn site.

You are right about this not being a joke. The lack of checks and balances in regards to the ads that appear on Shoutwire and the sites Shoutwire is associated with is very serious. These types of editorial lapses in regards to the ads that appear on Shoutwire are going to do serious damage to the reputation of Shoutwire and its owners. All wrmineo did was raise the issue of the types of ads that are being displayed on Shoutwire.

 

Yep, that was my email. I saw the porn ads and figured that they were there due to error on the part of the ad firm. Before the issue was addressed, I saw the article by wrmineo and decided to address the issue publicly. I certainly generated some pr, didn't it? A Digg submission, this forum, a full editorial. Wow.

Anyway, the ads were up for less than 24 hrs before they were pulled. I think we can get over it now. This is a non-issue.

Oh, and when you mentioned our affiliate sites (Spankwire), you forgot SpikedHumor.

Rsharrer:

I'm sure xxooZero appreciates the psychoanalysis. He's rightly pissed, though. The regulars here seem to go out of their way to fuck over Shoutwire, mess with the shout system, and conspire to promote their own site. He called you out on it and now you're throwing a hissy fit. The actual issue has been addressed, but you still insist on throwing around petty insults.

On top of that, you try to start some kind of Google ego competition. So and so's name is more well known, etc. What are you, like 15 years old? Now you tell me who is acting like a child.

@sarahk

Thank you for drawing that to my attention. UnitedStates1 is a user who was previously banned for making racist comments. He has been banned once again.

@KLB

You said: These types of editorial lapses in regards to the ads that appear on Shoutwire are going to do serious damage to the reputation of Shoutwire and its owners.

Give me a break. Nobody gave a rat's ass before the people in this forum made a big deal of it. In fact, nobody but you people give a rat's ass now. The ads would have been pulled that very morning, regardless of wrmineo's article. No damage was done to our reputation at all. People who don't have a grudge against us (like you people) realize that a mistake was made and has since been corrected.

 

I remember shoutwire posting comments back in January like they were a bunch of 12 year olds.

Why the hell don't shoutwire just say "sorry, the ads are inappropriate for a tech site, we will remove them"

The worst thing shoutwire can do in this situation is start a flame war. it just draws attention to it. Idiots.

 

ShoutWire's not a tech site. It's a news site. But yeah, the ads WERE inappropriate, and I DO apologize for any harm done. There will not be a reoccurance of this problem.

But I disagree with you mad4. Drawing attention to it is a good thing. Any publicity is good publicity. People who have never heard of ShoutWire are now checking us out because of this incident and the publicity that it has generated. I'm sure the same is true for wrmineo's site. I had never heard of it before, and now i've gone there several times.

Besides, flame wars can be fun, especially if it's a slow month at work (like this month is for me).

 

People say there is no such thing as negative publicity, but this may be pushing the boundary.

 

Eh, boundaries are meant to be pushed.

And hey, digitalpoint has something up right now

http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/21687/Shawn_Hogan_from_Digitalpoint_takes_on_the_MPAA

Too bad it's rubbish and must be deleted.

Just kidding.

 

Declaring it an error on the ad firm's part is a convenient way of passing the blame for the initial decision to try ads from the ad firm in question to begin with.

No this isn't a non-issue; it is only an issue Shoutwire folks would like to go away. Again those ads seriously bring into doubt the judgment used by those who control Shoutwire.

DP is one of the biggest and most active webmaster type forums around. As such it will have a higher number of individuals that try to game any system not just Shoutwire. This does not mean that the majority or even a large percentage of DP "regulars" are out to game Shoutwire or even care that it exists. Thinking that all or even a majority of DP regulars are out to mess with Shoutwire is like thinking that all HotMail users are spammers just because so much spam has a HotMail return address. Again DP is one of the most popular webmaster forums, so naturally it will have more members that want to game other systems than most forums.

I'm sorry, but it is you and the other Shoutwire "defenders" that are using profane language, throwing a "hissy fits" and petty insults.

Would the ads have "flown under the radar screen" if Wrmineo hadn't raised the issue? Yes they probably would have; however, this does not mean that people don't care about the fact that Shoutwire was linking to porn sites using pictures of children. It simply means they may not have noticed or known about it. This isn't a little mistake. This is a colossal lapse in editorial judgment. Shoutwire placed profit ahead of making prudent choices in advertising partners to supply ads.

Wrmineo did the right thing by exposing this issue to the rest of us so that we know what kind of standards Shoutwire maintains. I thought Shoutwire held promise as a good alternative to Digg's corrupt system. Those ads and the behavior of Shoutwire apologists in this thread have proven to me that it really isn't a good alternative.

 

Hey bulshoy, I am busy right now but I will fight with you later.

 

Who the hell are you? You might be someone after I blog about you in my ASSCLOWN of the MONTH award...

I saw the ads and as a site owner I'd be pissed that they made it through my filter! Then I'd be apologetic to my readers, I do have to agree with Bulshoy - Any publicity is good publicity... However I wouldn't have pulled the original article... IMO it makes SW look like they can't fight a fair fight .02

NeO