What does it matter how long you've been on the internet? You speak about honest guys making a buck yet the website you speak of will remain untouched. Even if they do go to jail (which seems unlikely) it will have very little or no effect on the amount of piracy. That kind of data is not stored in DNA, nub.
hey c'mon man... there's no need to go discriminatory and stuff. If you guys want to express your views, learn to respect the other guys' views too, and not diss each other. I for one believe that the statement against the guys is a bit harsh really. I mean 4.5 m ??! If you see, they're not the ones who're infringing the laws themselves. They are just the ones who provide a platform for sharing them. The real culprits are the ones who rip out such stuff and float it on the net. Overall, i believe that piracy is not a really good way to go, as the stuff created takes hard work. Although, on the publishers' part, they should make an attempt to price their products more fairly...
Uhhh... Yeah it is. But listen. You are a waste of my breath today. I realize now that you are the Alpha and Omega of all that there is and will ever be... I stand before you in awe! Anyway... Yeah man, a little harsh. OK. Well let me see. Hmmmm... Discriminatory. Wow... Awesome! Dude calls me a name, I acknowledge his obvious genetic mutative retardation factor, and Yeah...OK Never mind. Ummmmm... Well, 4.5 million. Let's see. The court saw that they could afford 4.5 M.i.l.l.i.o.n dollars somehow or another. That means at some point these goobers scraped more than 4.5 mil from doing... What? Oh, hosting a pirate network and bragging about it. Yeah, I understand. Way too harsh. Yeah. Have you ever read their articles or seen a video of these guys? Their bravado about how they get away with being King of the Pirate network, even calling themselves "Pirate Bay" for crying out loud, was just begging to get banged. No sympathy here... Sorry. You brag, you pay. Real criminals that are smart are covert and quiet. They get out while the getting is good. Not braggarts who think they are above the little people. That's called greed. You just can't see the forest for the trees. If these guys got fined 4 mil, they are obviously taking even other pirates for a ride. Did you share in any of their profits by being on their network and seeding torrents on YOUR bandwidth? No? Why? Greed. And you think this will break them or stop pirates? You think I think that? Cockroaches will always survive. That is why they are what they are... Cock Roaches. These guys have plenty of bank off your back, no worries there. Like the Napster idiots, they will die with a smile on their face and laugh at you people all day long behind your backs. Then sell their useless Internet property to Google or Yahoo, who will then drive it into the ground like everything else they own. Check this out. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK. Not totally. I respect your opinion, but I am not really that interested in debating your thoughts or some peoples swagger either for that matter. I am simply elated that they finally got a hot poker up their butt!
You have a point. And no, piracy will not end. But think about this fine they got. These things are based on something. Juries can pull stuff out their butt, but they usually don't. They look at a lot of factual things and factor in earnings. So you tell me. Does a pirate bit torrent network deserve to make money at all? And if so, should they not be a share website like say... DP is, for instance? And do you think for one minute these guys had any intention of getting right with anybody? Including their own members? I think you all know the answer. You cut down the movie industry, but do you know what kind of resources it actually takes to make a real movie? Lots of mouths to feed, lots of families make a living in that industry. I am not talking about some YouBoob hack that has a camcorder and plays "Fred" in his playpool (I dig Fred, by the way), but a movie the caliber of "Fast and Furious" let's say. And do you enjoy those movies? So people should entertain YOU and not eat, huh? I don't hear anyone complaining about the NFL or how much people make hitting stupid balls with a stick. But you can't steal that... So? Out of luck I guess. Play ball! One on the Warning Track Wall for bit torrent websites. How sad. Here was another revelation that makes piracy a "victimless " crime. (Like crack use, I guess.) First Mac Botnet Stems From iWork, Photoshop Trojans A Mac OS X botnet is turning infected computers into attacker-controlled zombies designed to steal information, according to researchers. The Mac botnet, a network of infected computers controlled by an attacker usually for malicious purposes, gained traction after attackers launched malicious software attached to pirated versions of the Mac productivity suite iWork '09, and Adobe Photoshop CS4 for Mac. The Mac malware spread on BitTorrent trackers and other peer-to-peer sites that contain links to pirated software. Now even the invincible Mac is becoming a hackers playground thanks to pirated software and people who install it blind. Neat. I wonder if that is gonna take the bite off those ridiculous anti-Microsoft commercials Steve likes so much? Hmmmmm... I wonder. Let me be honest here. I have been trying to figure out for years how to funnel traffic off of these sites. They are the most popular websites on the Internet ever. Yeah, Twitter has Kutcher and his mental midget minions, but nothing is more popular then stealing digits man.
I don't think the verdict is wrong. Considering the losses and the global appeal of pirate bay this would be a good news for industry atlast.
You need imagination to produce a movie - remakes after hits, some special effects or the most expensive actors aren't enough anymore to guarantee success. Original films will never face losses! You were talking about fast and furious..Here is a quote from wikipedia Although that was 2001 and I assume some didn't have access to internet and piracy so let's take the curious case of benjamin button! Good musicians are making the cash from concerts! Fanboys are so obsessed they will buy all their merchandise - cds, t-shirts etc. But why would I want to buy something I'm not sure I will like?
Will the movie industry pay the piratebay if a person downloaded a movie from thier site and liked and then went to to theathres to enjoy the best quality ??? Neways no point in us discussing.. those who have the power decided whats rite whats wrong
Then don't. No one is twisting your arm today? If you say something, that is cool to. Ok. I am in the trenches in the music business. Have been throughout my 20 year Marine Corps career all along, so about 30 plus years all together. Still in it heavily. The majority of artists do not have a label to pump up promoting value and tour opportunity is nil for independents in general. So Fallout Boys aside, the majority are dying. It's ok that you don't believe me, I understand. You are on the "Internet" so wiki up poverty and there is the definition for the majority of artists today based on reality, not Internet data. OK, fine. You made your argument. I cannot change you or your opinion. I respect that. You can find out what you like by sampling merchandise. But Sir, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? That is the majority rule. Very factual. I am not talking about Madonna here, I am talking about Pete Hopkins. Do you know Pete Hopkins? He is an artist I represent and he is a great artist. He can't sell his music because people want him to perform for nothing, give them their free downloads like on the "bit torrent site". You may not respect that. Fine. I can't argue with that, you win. Whatever the box office gross is for a movie does not even come close to the money snatchers that sell popcorn or soda at these rip off fests. The movie may be 17 bucks, but a small soda is $4.75 and a bottle of water is $3.00 bucks. Who is the thief here? I'm not 100% sure really. I lived near Hollywood most of my younger life and what it takes to create these films is amazing. Technology makes it easier today, sure, but anyway. Pirates are wonderful. Music should be free and movies too. Women should be free too. Who am I kidding? Wow... Really? Ok. Check this out. You quit going to movies at all. When 500,000 just like you do the same... Who has the "power" now? The consumer rules this country I live in PERIOD. We are a land of "consumerism". Not democracy, but who shopped at Walmart today is the one calling the shots. When we don't (honestly) like something, we don't buy it. But stealing it does not prove that it is bad or not worthy. Just the opposite. If you steal it, you obviously wanted it. So the power theory you mentioned cancels itself out.
There are many alternatives i mean iv never used pirate bay iv been using: TorrentZ.com Mininova.org Demonoid.com
There are thousands artists like him (many with catchier songs). Make him cause controversy or go inflate him on myspace. You are on a webmaster forum so you should know that crap. Pay celebrity bloggers to write about him etc Lemon Demon is an excellent example of how you can get popular just with your creativity - I wanted to order a shirt from him a while ago, but it didn't had my size on stock. Anyway, it made me support him It's 2009, it's tough for everyone! P.S. Water and popcorn aren't mandatory to see a film, me thinks!
Myspace is a joke and you know it as well as I do. There are millions of artists period. Fake listens and all. I have software that could make you appear like people actually listen, they don't. It's fabrication plain and simple. Internet fans are virtual imagination. Buy a shirt? Wow. Might retire on that, huh? You don't get it, you are probably not an artist. That's Ok man, I suppose you think I was born yesterday and this here Internet is new to me. Artists don't get popular on creativity alone. It takes money. If Lemon Lizzard or whatever is your kind of band, then someone paid for it to be true. It was no accident my friend. I ain't gonna argue the point, it is not necessary. The point is you think piracy is great, I think it is scum. We can agree not to agree. I am alright with that. I am listening to Lemon Demon. Not bad. Unique, I like that. Why do you have to call a professional "musician" like Pete Hopkins classified like something when you have no idea what you are talking about? Lemon Demon is electronica and samples, not pure musicianship. Pete is a pop artist, not an electronica artist. Two different genres. Do I like your band there? Sure. But in my business there is separation between types of art, this one type. Cool, funky, and I like it. But Pete writes pop music friend, different class of music. Apples and oranges. After researching Lemon Demon I can safely say they are a signed band. Another category as well. They may claim they are not, but it is chic and popular to be "independent". It makes you look cool. Why do I know this stuff? I just managed a signed artist last year with a five record deal. This is not my first trip around the maypole. I will sell Pete Hopkins, that is not even what I was talking about here really. Another time for another thread? OK. Thanks Bro or Sister. You're cool, I like your taste in music, but we are really missing the point.
From my point of view, Piracy is a good thing. Without Piracy in the software field, third world countries wouldn't have developed. We wouldn't watch all the films. What's the point of making more films if no one knows the actors??? And music? Who would have thousands of MP3 on his playlist?? All concerts would be empty. And, if I'm not mistaken, there has been a recent ban on piracy in France. Artists have complained against that as they would fall in public ignorance without piracy. I'm not flaming anyone, that's my point of view
I thought about you for the last few hours. You are cool, for sure. I like Lemon Demon and you got me thinking real hard. That forum of theirs is something, huh? Populated like crazy. But, you are fan, not a music creator. You got me thinking, that's all. I appreciate what you said more now than when you said it. I'll keep you posted on some progress that way. Thanks again.