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13-07-2006 PR update

Discussion in 'Google' started by dkessaris, Jul 13, 2006.

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  1. Guru

    Guru Peon

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    #521
    Thank you mr.genius for clearing us all up, im sure your in direct contact with google. Will you stfu who do you think you are?
     
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  2. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #522
    Nice try but you are wrong here, my site has had pr since before april 2005 much less 2006 and it is being updated. So have several of my client's sites.

    I will agree there is some adjustment to sites with undeserving PR.

    Artifical link building would be any method of accquiring links where one did not simply just link to the site because they wanted to and thought it of value...

    so in my opinion reciprocals, bought, traded links are artifical...

    but that is my opinion and not meant to be the holy grail or pontification...

    Can you say the same?
     
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  3. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #523
    Who, him or me?

    -Michael
     
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  4. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #524
    Bravisimo!!!
     
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  5. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #525
    It's possible I am wrong. I'm going based on the fact that you happen to be the first one making this claim that I've seen across several boards, and adjusting it accordingly based on things you've said that I know to be wrong. Just to be clear, you are talking about homepages that had PR before 04/04 getting new higher PR on the homepage this update, correct? Have any examples you care to share?

    -Michael
     
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  6. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #526
    No I am not seeing the home pages PR moving..

    all child pages are blank as many are noting...

    So it would seem the home page PR wont adjust until the updates run full course in the next few days or so..

    If you look you said "sites that had PR before 04/04 were not updating..

    You did not say the "home page of sites with PR before 04/04"

    Peace
     
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  7. Guru

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    #527
    Well most links I bought there pr totally dropped hopefully that does not affect my update, since I google saw link with other PR.
     
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  8. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #528
    That is entirely my bad... I fell into the bad habit that alot of people practice. PR is page specific. When people say that their site's PR went up, generally they seem to be talking about the homepage.

    So, what I meant to say was all pages that received PR before 04/04 did not get updated. This is exactly what happened in the 04/04 update, by the way... only previously PR0 pages went up. Some of those went up too high. It looks like, in this update, that those who went too high last update got corrected, and those that didn't have any PR and were older than the snapshot date (I think June 10-13...? I forget now) did get PR.

    Based on the fact that in 04/04 they did not update old pages, and that so far this looks like the same pattern (minus the inflated PR's here and there), it doesn't look like old pages that had correct PR are getting updated.

    Now, this entire update took less than 1 hour, so yeah, that part was very very weird, and yeah, we might see more down the road. It's just not happening yet.

    -Michael
     
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    primeryder Well-Known Member

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    #529
    what is strange to me is how some sites that I did not touch at all and I expected to be zero got something. For instance, http://www.buyestablishedsite.com a site with zero backlinks and asite I was waiting to promote later, was a ssigned apagerank of 1, and so were several other new sites like that. It is almost like they are giving any domain that prviosly was a zero at least a 1, even if it has no links, just arbitrarily.
     
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    #530
    Does anyone have a page with existing PageRank that went up? I'm checking over 50 domains and so far I've seen pages with existing PR drop lower (most to 0) while none go up.
     
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    #531
    Nope. That site has at least 2 backlinks:
    http://www.aaronsdirectory.com/internet.html
    http://www.thewellnessportal.com/niche.html

    I assume the others do as well. It's far from arbitrary.

    -Michael
     
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    #532
    hmmm what the hell has been going on don't visit forums for 2 days and theres an update , a bad one also anyone lost rankings, e.g. 4 to 0 etc?

    thanks
     
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    #533
    This update proves that PR is dead and means nothing to Google anymore. Its still a ploy to trip webmasters. Move on.
     
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    #534
    My almost 2 year old site got absolutely no PR change!! It has been like this for ages now. There are several PR5, 6, & 4s supporting it. But PR does not like the site ;) Google suc*s!!
     
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    #535
    Saem thing happenned to my site. subpages went up a few notches.. but he homepage is the same.. hasn't moved. My serps haven't budged at all either.. (I wasn't expecting them too).. anyway, I'll cross my fingers and hope that the homepage will be adjusted as well.
     
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    #536
    What got me hooked into watching PR was 302 redirect hijacks. When caught in one during the snapshot period, your PR goes to 0 - your PR gets hijacked as well. I have not looked around, but anyone having PR before September (and perhaps some getting the first PR after) and going to PR0 on any page this update should check for 302 hijacks.

    Most do see PR as validation of a job well done - link building, compliance, etc. if you will read between the lines.

    Someone mentioned that artificial link building was not working - I can attest that automatic link building is alive and well. I started a new site on 4/24 with one PR6 off-topic link and joined 2 automated link exchange systems. Traffic and PR show that they are helping immensely, though rankings have yet to be what I expect. Sandboxed, I think, for generic search terms. I get good clickthrough for more specific searches. If I can get past that it will make me some good money.
     
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    #537
    I also think people whose PR went up take it as a pat on the back from G. Isn't it also assumed to be part of the SERP algo?
     
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    #538
    there is no reason my pr5 should drop to zero, anyone else experienced such dramatic drops?
     
    mobilebay, Jul 15, 2006 IP
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    #539
    I am seeing updates all over the place, some down, no up yet :(
     
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