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PR means nothing!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by klingerrr, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. #1
    Is PR even relevant anymore or is it just a joke? Maybe I just don't have a correct understanding of the value of a high PR and it's usefulness to the web...

    I've heard many people say that PR doesn't mean a thing and I finally feel the same way.. I just made a new site and it's a PR 4 while my old site is a PR 2. The PR 2 site has much better placement than the PR 4 site. Anybody else experiencing the same thing..

    When is google going to scratch this, or have they already?
     
    klingerrr, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  2. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #2
    It probably has some sort of bearing at one point or another in their algo/calculations. But who the heck knows these days.

    All I can say for myself is after linking up with a few pr5 and pr6 sites, a few days later I was seeing results for certain key phrases out of nowhere and even higher than my own site.
     
    an0n, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  3. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamerâ„¢

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    #3
    Googles TBPR updates have been a joke but PR still matters.

    If you sell links then it matters, people still check PR before buying links. (Not all, but most)

    PR is still (as far as I know) a part of the Google algo and even if that part is minscule it still matters.
     
    Roman, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  4. KLB

    KLB Peon

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    #4
    Really, this is the primary reason PR matters. As Roman says, when advertisers are deciding to whether or not to advertise on my site they almost always look at the PR of my pages. I'm sure that if my chemistry site didn't have so many PR6 primary pages and PR5 secondary pages, some of my advertisers wouldn't have had much interest in my site.

    Does PR have a major impact on SERPs? I don't think it does, but people still use it when evaluating the value of buying links/ad on other people's sites.
     
    KLB, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    rahman15 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    If PR means nothing, why does Google bother to update it?
     
    rahman15, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  6. Janet

    Janet Peon

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    #6
    PR only matters if buying/selling links or acquiring link partners since some websites will only exchange links with sites that have a certain PR. Other than that, I really don't see the importance of PR, it certainly has very little to no effect on rankings, sales, conversions, traffic, etc.
     
    Janet, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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  7. Cristian Mezei

    Cristian Mezei Notable Member

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    #7
    EXACTLY ... That's the best quote I could find about PR and I would put it in a BIG text in every new thread in DP about PR.
     
    Cristian Mezei, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  8. Janet

    Janet Peon

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    Feel free to use my quote whenever you need to, just give me a backlink with it, okay? ;)
     
    Janet, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    #9
    PR is important when determining how deep and often to crawl and index sites, there's no doubt about that. Other than that, it's good for buying / selling links and that's pretty much all (like already posted). PR is not an indicator of traffic in any way shape or form, but it is still important to Google.

    ***note*** I shall say that PR isn't what's important, it's the backlinks. PR is just (or supposed to be) an indicator of the quantity / quality of backlinks. But, with the recent quirkyness of the PR toolbar exports... I now use MSN to determine backlinks instead of relying on the toolbar.
     
    mdvaldosta, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  10. Cristian Mezei

    Cristian Mezei Notable Member

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    #10
    I value copyright and intellectual property :eek:
     
    Cristian Mezei, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  11. KLB

    KLB Peon

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    #11
    The idea is that it give the user a quick way to see the relative popularity of a page in comparison to similar pages. From a user's perspective this could be useful.

    How much does PR matter to the SERPs? Only Google really knows.
     
    KLB, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  12. Cristian Mezei

    Cristian Mezei Notable Member

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    Either MSN or Yahoo. I myself preffer Yahoo.
     
    Cristian Mezei, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  13. TorchedSEO

    TorchedSEO Well-Known Member

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    Probably to confuse people. If people think PR matters and affects rankings they'll spend more time actually writting unique content and playing by all the rules instead of generating 5 billion spam pages ;)
     
    TorchedSEO, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    PR matters for new sites in order to get indexed fast.
    I hope this make sense.
     
    Bondat, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    Mido Well-Known Member

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    i heared its imoprtant when se compares many sites for same keywords so higher pr the top in serp
     
    Mido, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    Bondat Peon

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    PR has no effect on SERP!
     
    Bondat, Jul 13, 2006 IP
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    #17
    This is a misconception. Please tell this to the one who said it and do not attempt to spread this idea.
     
    ewc21, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  18. rayn_84

    rayn_84 Banned

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    #18
    PR's are not that impt. for search engine rankings. It's the traffic! :cool:
     
    rayn_84, Jul 17, 2006 IP
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    #19
    PR should be considered as a result, rather than as the cause of things these days. People, especially newbies often think that having a high PR page will help them gain better SERPs. And they go around, looking for link partners, building links, etc. Eventually, they SERPs will improve (assuming that they've gained a lot of back links and that they have done it in the right way), PR will also improve (assuming that some of the back links will transfer some of its PR to them), and that's where the "PR effects SERPs" urban legend comes from. PR is just a result, a side measure of various things, and not a cause of high SERPs.
     
    srdjan, Jul 17, 2006 IP
  20. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    I wrote this a while ago, - sorry for the cut and paste!

     
    MattUK, Jul 17, 2006 IP