Obama Approval Rating Falling!

Unfortunately for you, you like to rely on facts that have been shown to be innacurate. I recommend to you that you find a better source for you information. Your leftwing socialist "meme machine" has left you with egg on your face.

I have documented that Gallup is less accurate than Rasmussen and you choose to ignore it, claiming some unsubstantiated sinister plot to manipulate Rassmussen poll data, rocketing them into first place. Why? Because the liberals like to paint the Rassmussen poll and slanted toward the GOP.

In fact, according to Fordham University, there were NINETEEN better sources than Gallup, but Gallup supports your position, and that's all you've got so you need to stick with it. Just don't plan on winning any support with that data.

Here is the link again, in case you missed it.

http://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/most-accurate-polls-for-2008/

 

lol you keep telling yourself that. How about, if you are going to join the discussion, you at least add something worthwhile instead of just some drivel you saw on cnn.

 

Actually as I noted, Rasmussen also supports my position unless you really think a drop from 57% to 56% over the course of 6 weeks is significant.

And Rasmussen's numbers were wayyy off (in McCain's favor of course) until the very last couple of days when they suddenly gave Obama a good sized lead. Hmm... I think that's highly suspicious. They've done that time and time again. They try to influence the race and then at the last days before the election they show their real numbers (which admittedly are often correct) --- With something like approval ratings they have no reason to correct their BS. They are trying to create the idea that Obama is less popular than he really is. That's obvious.

BTW: Obama is now up to 63% in Gallup. Mmm, Delicious! Americans are seeing their President being not only respected but LOVED by people all over world. It's a new feeling after 8 years of having our Prez be the laughing stock of the world. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Obama's approval rating climb near 70% by the end of this European trip.

 

Obama is getting little of what he has asked from the Europeans. The Germans and French are unwilling to join the fighting in Afganistain and contribute to global stimulus spending.

The progessive tax is unfair. Everyone should be taxed at the same rate.

Tax cuts allow people to keep their own money.

Spending is out of control.

People need to work harder and depend on the government less.

True. The average Joe wants his slice of government cheese. But the stimulus spending of today will bring double digit inflation tomorrow. People on fixed incomes and that depend on their savings are especially hard hit.

Communism doensn't work. I didn't see any West Germans trying to escape over the Berlin Wall to East Germany.

 

Well that's the thing. Small businesses would fall into this bracket.

 

Can you blame them? they still remember Bush got us into this mess and have had a bad taste in their mouths for it ever since.

Answer honestly, between John McCain and Pres Obama, which one do you think is more likely to have success slowly convincing nations to help us?

So you see you can all fall into the Limbaugh line of thought and hedge your bets on him failing all you like. But the fact is, whether he does or not, he still was a better choice and has a better chance of succeeding than McCain....

He's smarter and much more well liked. You can't spin that, that is a fact.

I agree. If everyone paid the same tax percentage it would be something you could count on no matter how much money you make and would stop our tax code from being the jumbled mess that you need an MBA to understand that it is.

As an over arching statement that is true. But in reality (where we live) there are people in situations circumstantial, physical, and mental where it's just not as simple as that.

Hard work ethic is awesome! But for some people it will only get you so far. Some of the hardest working people I know make less than $25,000 per year. You can be the hardest working student and have the best grades in your ghetto but that alone will not get you into Yale. I've climbed the ladder since I was 18 and I can tell you it is FAR more often about who you know and where you're from than how hard you work.

I'd say today... Mr. Joe needs that slice of cheese more than wants it.

And I disagree. You're trying to pigeonhole the blame of inflation on Stimulus spending and that's just absurd. Inflation comes from prosperity. Period. When times are great and everyone has money inflation increases. Whether that prosperity came from stimulus or tax breaks is irrelevant.

You're bias is showing

You guys went from liberal to socialist to communist in less than 6 months. Basically anything not conservative is "evil" in your eyes. But that's ok, keep being out of touch.

 

There you go, quoting the 20th most accurate poll again. You gotta find a better source. Actually Obama's popularity is down from 65% on inauguration day to 56% now. And you state that Rasmussen was wayyy off? Who's to say? You have no evidence to back up your claim. If I remember correctly, Obama really snowballed towards the end of the campaign. Bad press about McCain and Palin feuding? At least that's how I remember it.

You have no evidence to support your claims. Obama's numbers are down, but you are correct in that there is no guarantee that they will stay there. It all depends on the job he is doing.

 

You must compare apples to apples. In Gallup Obama is down from 68% for inauguration to 62% on February 16th (a normal fade from the inauguration period that every modern President has had) and from February 16th to today, April 5th, still 62%. So the claim that there's been some sort of recent drop in his approval rating is obviously false.

And even with your beloved Rasmussen poll there's no proof of recent decline: "With just one exception, the President’s total approval has stayed between 55% and 58% every day for the past month." - from the most recent Rasmussen poll.

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Gallup is the standard with Presidential approval polling. When you hear about past Presidential approval ratings on the news, it's the Gallup numbers people are talking about. They have been doing it since the 1940s: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/P...ings-Gallup-Historical-Statistics-Trends.aspx (pretty interesting stuff for comparison's sake: George W Bush.)

 

The stagflation in 1970s wasn't caused from "increased prosperity". Growth in the money supply due to government stimulus caused the inflation. The result was stagnant business activity and increased unemployment. The government printing money does not generate wealth.

Correct. Someone making 200k is working for the cash and shouldn't have to subsidize the freeloaders looking for a 5lb brick of government cheese.

"they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

-- Barry Obama

 

Yeah, but hell, we're all RICH right... We don't need that money. God forbid we hire employees, pay bills, or grow.

 

Obama was right, I forgot about loving guns & hating immigrants. Two more reasons to be a Republican. That makes five:

#1 Hate gay people.
#2 Hate immigrants.
#3 Love guns.
#4 Equate abortion with murder.
#5 Be a millionaire who dreams of tax cuts.

 

You keep claiming that Rasmussen leans right. Claiming that over and over again doesn't make it true. What IS true is that Rasmussen was the closest in predicting the outcome of the past two (maybe three) Presidential races.

Zibblu, you see everything through partisan eyes. It's exactly that thinking that has the USA in the mess it's in. People like you rooting for political parties in the same way that people root for football teams - you don't care if your side cheats, as long as they don't get caught.

Wise up.

 

Yes, try telling this to Zimbabwe.....

 

This is how I know you are a blind partisan.

Not republican, here. But I equate abortion with murder, maybe you will when you grow up and have kids. I love guns, how else to keep the government from controlling you? I don't hate immigrants, just illegal immigrants that take away jobs from Americans. There is a right way and a wrong way to immigrate.

If we want to go with blind partisanship, lets look at the Democrats.

1. Want the government to control anything and everything.
2. Think it's ok to murder an unborn baby, but, at the same time, say if you kill a pregnant woman you can be charged with murder twice.
3. Rely on emotion to do anything. Facts are always evading them.
4. Think it's ok to let people who enter this country illegally take jobs away from Americans who need them, especially in today's economy.
5. Think its ok to put a person in a position just because of their race. Screw qualification.
Would you like me to go on?

 

I can go on...
You Might Be a Democrat If:
1. You believe in freedom of speech except for anyone that disagrees with you
2. You think the words "separation of church and state" are in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights
3. You believe that it is alright for you to lie to further your point of view, but it is wrong for other people to tell the truth to further an opposing point of view
4. You believe it is O.K. for a Democrat to lie, cheat, and steal, because their heart is in the right place, but any Republican should be thrown into federal prison for incorrect spelling.
5. You believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
6. You believe your taxes are are not low enough, but everyone else's taxes are not high enough.
7. You believe that the entire Patriot Act is wrong even though you've never taken five minutes to read it on the Internet
8. You believe that manipulating other people through guilt is O.K. if it makes you look good.
9. You believe that the only reason that socialism fails whenever it's been tried is because people like you haven't been in charge.
10. You believe conservatives that tell the truth belong in jail, but a Democrat that's liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.
11. You believe that any Conservative that is even accused of a crime in a footnote is guilty and must immediately resign from office; but any Democrat that is convicted based on overwhelming video evidence and thrown in jail was unjustly convicted and should stay in office.
12. You believe that a conservative that is accused of a crime is guilty, but a liberal that's convicted and sentenced is innocent.
13. You believe that it is O.K. if people that disagree with you on anything, including tomorrow morning's weather forecast, should suffer great pain.
14. You believe that anyone that agrees with this list is automatically a Republican
15. You believe that anyone who calls themselves a Moderate is a liar

 

A consultant earning 200k is not on easy street. They will need to pay their healthcare, retirement and pay taxes.

A unionized government worker making 80k with healthcare and pension included is not doing bad in comparison.

People making 30k may not even be paying taxes and when you include government payments from the earned income credit, they are actually getting back more than they pay.

The issue is that the rich don't have enough money to pay for the Obama trillions. The only way to fund the massive spending will to hit people that make 75k and above hard.

 

And that's one of the biggest things these morons seem to forget.. People look at my 6 figure income and think I'm rich. I'm far from it. I pay my own health care OUT OF MY OWN POCKET. And then have to pay INCOME TAX on it. This is just one of the many OUT OF POCKET expenses I have, aside from taking it up the ass from the tax man initially... They just keep taking more.

No, in the end, they fair better than you are I. They don't have these "out of pocket" expenses. Everything is handed to them on a silver platter and then some. The salary is the icing.

Exactly... I've got a friend that told me his is better off not getting married. This girlfriend back more than she paid in in taxes. 15 times more in fact. That makes no sense. At the end of the day, she makes more than him, and he makes 3 times what she makes.

WTF???

Honestly, I doubt Dumbama's gonna last that long. Anyway, the ultra rich can find easier ways of mitigating tax liability than the average joe. The rest of us? We're gonna come to a point where we just say enough is enough, and NO.

At the end of the day the only real way to solve economic issues int he US is to reduce government to the bare essentials it was originally intended for. That is to provide for the common defense, and that's about it.

Once we reduce the size and scope of government we can truly recognize lower taxes. Right now we need to raise taxes to pay for government. We don't want more government, we don't need more government.

 

I am a unionized gov worker, making less than $80K, & I'm paying about $400.00 a month for health insurance for my family AND I still have deductibles and copays. No silver platter. Lots of out of pocket expenses. My daughters doc was kicked out of my PPO plan because "he spends too much time with his patients", so the out of pocket for her is even higher. My salary pays my living expenses, just like yours, why is it icing???

Where do you get your ideas that are so far off from reality???

 

Your 6 figure income is a lot more than people making 25-30k and they have to pay for their own things too. I don't buy the sob story there.

 

I didn't say I have a 6 figure income, I said I make less than 80K, & I didn't say how much less. So your assumption that I make a lot more than 25-30K is just that, an assumption. I wouldn't be stupid enough to say exactly what I earn here, but it isn't relevant anyway, people who work for the gov earning 25K or 80K ALL HAVE TO PAY PART OF THEIR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, and they all HAVE OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES.

I wasn't posting a sob story, I was responding to youur ridiculous post that people who work for the gov dont have to pay for their insurance and dont have out of pocket expenses.

Rant all you want, but try to get your facts straight.