•• $80 Article contest!! ••

Well the fact remains that someone is going to get $50 for a 400/500 word article. If you don't want to enter, you don't have to!

Keep the registrations coming in!

Cheers guys!
Notting

 

Yes, and the fact also remains that, for example, if you get 200 people entering the contest, 3 win.

The remaining 197 articles YOU wish to hold the copyright for? Just one question on this:

WHY

If you can explain your reason for needing to keep the copyright on articles you have no wish to pay for, maybe it will help people understand.

At first you said that you wouldn't answer the question, as the person asking had no intention of entering. You also said you should be trusted due to your itrader score.

Now, I am asking the question... and others are too!

If it comes down to itrader, I think you will find I have enough to warrant a decent, honest reply, especially as it is higher than yours even! - But itrader shouldn't matter really, if you open a public contest, you should be okay about explaining the rules to people.

A genuine concern has been rasied by numerous people here, so instead of repling saying people don't have to enter if they don't want, why not have a think about if your rules are actually fair for all involved?

Would you not consider something like this:

the top 3 entries, they get awarded their prize, you get the copyright. The next 10 entries, you get the copyright, they get either a mention when you use the article, or a small, nominal sum.

The entries lower than the top 13, they must be pretty low quality, so let the writers keep the copyright!

I think it is morally wrong to state they you wish to own copyright over someone elses work if you have no intention of paying for it! - I don't care how long you have been on DP. - Maybe you didn't realise quite how that rule would sound, or be interpreted?

Can we have a decent discussion about this, ideally without single line answers?

 

Mikeid,

I respect your opinions, and am more than happy to discuss this with you.

I am sending you my personal mobile number which you can call me on any time after 8:00pm when I get back from work.

Thanks
Notting

 

Bravo repped ya

 

So if I said:

"I need 8 articles on 8 different topics. The winner in each topic will get $10. I will get only the copyright on the winning entry."

Questions:

Would people be happier with a contest run like that?
Would I attract as many entries?
Would I get as good quality articles?
Would I pay out the same amount of money?

Interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks
Notting

 

A mute point maybe, but if you don't enter the contest you are not involved.

Notting

 

I think this one would be a very fine and very fair contest. And I do think you would have more entries because there are more topics to write about..and because you were honest upfront. The quality of the articles, well - a writer is a writer. A good writer is going to write just as well for $50 as he does for free. It's his style. A bad writer is, well - a bad writer, regardless of the payoff.

 

Buy the copyright or do not ask for it. Some excellent posts in this thread rep added along the way.

 

The problem is that there are too many writers out there selling rubbish. I have had no end of trouble as a buyer, even when paying reasonable rates.

Unfortunately 75% of the writers on this site are crap to be honest. If someone gives me a better way of finding good writers, please let me know.

Until then doing it this way I will find who the good writers are.

 

You're not looking for good writers. You're looking for gullible writers.

Quit side stepping the issue and either A. admit what you're doing and continue on as the scam artist your 'rules' have portrayed you to be or B. save face by establishing and adhering to firm and FAIR guidelines for all entrants.

Those are your only 2 options at this point.

 

It's very interesting to look at your posting history Senobia.

All you do is go around invading other peoples posts with your own opinions:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=16472850

Pathetic....

Why don't you write something a bit more intersting? Work slow at the moment? I doubt many people would employ you with your unprofessional attitude.

By the way everyone, I'm still paying the contest winner $50!

Anyway! Keep up the controversy - great marketing for my thread!!

Many thanks
Notting

 

sorry i might be interrupting but most of the time senobia raise a valid point...As far as capabilities of a writer are concerned there are really plenty of good writers available here...And i dont see any reason Notting that why dont you find any good writer if you are wiling to pay so good price.....
i am sure there is some mistake...

 

Spot on.. What I see is trying to get something for free. If you pay the price, it will pay off in many folds. What many buyers fail to realize is that writing is time consuming, if you don't pay the price; how do you expect to be compensated with greatness? Sure there is always someone out there looking to make that quick dollar and they'll make it because it's easier to spend 1 dollar and pocket the rest.

You get what you pay/don't pay for...

 

I don't expect many writers on DP earn $50 for a 400/500 word article.

I'm paying out $80 which is hardly getting people to write for free is it?

Thanks
Notting

 

What about the non-winning pieces? Are you still going to claim the copyrights to those?

If you are, QUIT ACTING like you don't know what the hell is so offensive to people about this scam contest.

Quit acting like you're doing somebody some kind of grand service when all you're really doing is robbing them blind.

I'm talking about the NON WINNERS - the NON WINNERS - the people who don't win, but whose copyrights you want to take anyway. THE NON-WINNERS, for clarity. Do you understand now? Do you SEE what the fuss is about? I don't care if you were paying a cool million to each of the three winners - it's the NON WINNERS people are pissed off about.

Ya dig?

 

In a lot of contests you have to pay to enter the contest.

Think of it like this:

The 'cost' of entry to this contest is the copyright to your work. There is a relatively good chance you will win, thus making it a good prospect if you are a good writer.

If you don't want to pay the 'cost' to enter, then simply don't enter.

It is clear. It is simple. So simple a ten year old could understand the concept. I cannot make it any easier for you to understand Senobia!

Many thanks
Notting

 

If anyone thinks they are going to get screwed over, they have the option to not enter the contest. Simple as that! Life's too short to get hung up over something that someone said on an Internet forum. Let it GO, everyone!

 

A BS scam that only benefits you.

That's the perfect way of thinking of it because that's exactly what it is.

Further, if you want people to 'mind their own F'n business' - like in the PM you just sent me, telling me to do so - quit making BS posts and people just might.

 

It's true. There are ALWAYS going to be writers that enter the contests - So Why make such a huge fuss about it if you don't intend to enter yourself

 

It's NOT a scam...

Why?
Because Notting already stated all the facts.

Is it morally correct?
No (according to me and many other people on this thread).

Am I entering?
No.. I'm not terribly desperate for money and I personally don't like taking risks (i.e. not getting paid for my work).

So, if your like me....?
Shut the hell up and mind your own damn business instead of try to trash this thread / contest.

Why?
Because EVERYONE who takes part in this contest knows the "copyright" rule. So they're opting to give it up.

More?
Feel free to "try" and trash my post... lol