Google pagerank is Updating

This is great stuff guys keep it coming and I will make some popcorn..

 

ahh but it does, it's based on the real PR at a certain point in time, possibly with some modification but it's still based on the "working" PR

 

I already made mine 3 days ago.

 

What is that in answer to?

 

aha good i am making mine

 

The toolbar is a screenshot of the linkpop you got when google ran the most recent PR update, it fluctuates all the time, we can't see the real PR but we have an outlook of it with the google toolbar,
Thats great info for noobz xD!

 

This could be the longest PR update thread ever unless google hurry up with the update.

 

I honestly do not see what all the fuss has been about. Someone says that PR greatly affects ranking, someone else says that toolbar PR does not affect anything as it is a masthead snapshot, then the argument goes off in all directions about how PR affects ranking because of link benefit from anchor text etc (which is a whole different thing) and the argument then is turned around into theya re related as links and pr are related? F'ed if I know what all the fus is about, I mean to say this is schoolboy SEO stuff, not rocket science.

And looking at Bob's chart It looks like he has assumed the log scale to be 5 which is the lower end. It is thought that the log scale in the PR algo is between 5 & 8. This is what I alluded to yesterday when I said that while 100 prX links might get you say pr1 then 200 would not get you PR2. I just didn't want to muddy the waters further as they had been stirred and muddied enough already.

 

Don't make the mistake of equating PR with link popularity, it's simply not the case. Link popularity is vastly different from PR.

As we already discussed a page can get to PR8 or PR9 from one link and a page can be PR1 or PR2 with thousands of links.

 

"Don't make the mistake of equating PR with link popularity, it's simply not the case. Link popularity is vastly different from PR."

While this is very true I've also found it to be true that PR gives a webmaster the ability to successfully exchange links with other sites because many webmasters are unwilling to exchange links at all with PR0 sites, so in that sense a site with low or no page rank has to fight a much more difficult uphill battle to obtain the very thing that would help it achieve PR and decent placement in search results.

 

Flightnurse, then it is far easier to steal a pr5 and trade links on the back of it hard for a month or two until the next update, tby which time enough links should have been traded to give the site a PR5 anyhow. Hundreds if not thousands are already doing this anyhow (although it is deplorable)

 

I'd agree with that, though it's not difficult to get PR, you just need to be a little patient. Submit to some directories. By the next update (if it ever happens ) you should have some PR, that's when you should start looking at exchanging links.

 

umm, never thought about it like that! I'll have to be checking for fake PR's next time i do a link trade jokes

 

True, thanks for pointing that out

 

All PR discussions apart, has anyone noticed the fluctuation in Search engine Ranking Positions?

My site was roaming around 9th position a few days back. It went to the second page. I checked it yesterday and it was on 4th on Page 1 and today I am on top

The keyword is competitive but still all this?

 

I'm not seeing much change, up/down occasionally. Quite annoying!

 

haxan ... its called G-flux, as your competitors optimize their on page and off page variables you will see your and your competitors SERPs affected accordingly. SERPs for the most part are calculated in real time, thats to say that G doesn't wait to do their SERPs update once a week or at a particular time during the week/month etc.

 

And to think I missed all of this yesterday because I was BBQ'ing steaks and playing croquet and bocce. Drat

Don't know if it was mentioned yet but something else to consider...

PR is NOT Google's opinion about a site or page. It is nothing more than their tally.

It is the opinion of millions of webmasters, SEO's etc who cast their "votes" by placing links. The criteria used by these webmasters varies wildly and is not applied equally by any stretch of the imagination.

Some webmasters "vote" a few hundred times other vote thousands often building sites in an effort to vote for themselves over and over again.

PR is a corrupt system, easily influenced with self promotion the ruling factor.

No, PR is not Google's "opinion" about your site, it's MY opinion about your site and quite frankly, when it comes to my votes, all my sites are better than yours.

Kinda reminds you of another system doesn't it?

Dave

 

hahahahahaha Dave ... my site is bigger than yours all your Exs tell me that!

 

ROFL!

Dave