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DMOZ and Extreme Pornography

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by dvduval, Jun 16, 2006.

  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #341
    As ishfish recently pointed out, I don't think shygirl's posts have anything to do with anything except trolling.

    I wasn't certain at first whether she was an example of "can't understand" or "won't understand". I now believe it's the latter but either way responding to her posts is clearly a waste of everyone's time. If she doesn't understand the issues by now, there is nothing that you or I or ishfish or anyone else can say that will change that.
     
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  2. shygirl

    shygirl Guest

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    #342
    Show me then....

    Stop personally attacking me, stop trying to make out I'm mentally challenged, stop diverting questions with silly comments about my mental health like the last few posts, stop trying to make out I'm trolling when the above post contributes nothing to the discussion except venom towards me. That aside.

    Show me simply, the guidelines that allow 14 year olds to be listed in Dmoz.

    Point me to them.
     
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  3. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #343
    No. You've been "shown" over and over again. You don't or won't get it. You're on your own now.

    But in light of your obvious unwillingness or inability to comprehend the issues, you have nothing of value to contribute to the discussion any more.

    I suggest you find another place to troll.
     
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  4. shygirl

    shygirl Guest

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    #344
    No Minstrel. I'm not going anywhere.

    You're avoiding what you've been asked directly. Do you have an answer for me or not ?

    I've answered any questions put to me just fine here.
     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #345
    You've had answers many times, shygirl.

    Do you not understand them?

    Or do you choose not to hear them?

    Either way, as I've told you, I don't accept the responsibility for educating you. It's an exercise in utter futility. In this discussion, you have become a synonym for utter pointlessness.
     
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  6. shygirl

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    #346
    I take my hat off to you then. The master of pointless posts :) I remember you thanking me 28 days ago for being an editor showing 'real integrity'. Doesn't take much to change your mind does it ie : Disagree with you, I suppose ? Never mind.

    No answer to the question posed then ? Thought not. ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #347
    The sad thing is that we are not attacking you or at least I am not. I honestly believe that if you are serious about your question then a reading comprehension class will be very useful for you. Your "question" has as much relevance to this discussion as if you have posted about the weather in Timbuktu.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #348
    No, I'm not attacking you either. And as for "mentally challenged", (1) you were the one that claimed some sort of "disability" in what appeared to be a sympathy ploy several weeks back, and (2) I have no idea whether that's the case or not - if your failure to understand the points in this thread is due to comprehension deficits, then I guess that may be true; if not, then it's irrelevant and becomes a question fo refusal to understand. Either way, it's pointless and futile.

    And it has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with me. It has to do with your failure to grasp the point of the discussion.

    Continue as you were. Believe what you wish. I really don't care. As I said previously, you have no power to influence DMOZ anyway so it doesn't make any difference to me or to anyone else whether or not you get it.
     
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    Kaabi Well-Known Member

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    #349
    I have to say, that is a lot of weird stuff.
     
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #350
    And also a lot of weird people.
     
    minstrel, Jul 2, 2006 IP
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    #351
    heya
    another adult child website:
    www . xxxx . com

    no one know how come???

    this website works two hours per day
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #352
    So what's your point? Is that site listed in DMOZ?
     
    minstrel, Jul 2, 2006 IP
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    CReed Prominent Member

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    #353
    No point, just spamming I would imagine.
     
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  14. shygirl

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    #354
    My disability has nothing to do with my posts here thank you. It may give me a few typo's from time to time but it certainly isn't mentally disabilitating.

    Now that really is swinging below the belt. And I mean really ! Questioning the fact that I can even read is a terrible thing to say or question of any DP member here. :mad:

    Comprehension wise ? And bearing in mind I would rather have all of Adult Dmoz taken off the net tomorrow ? I am not a supporter of Adult, nor am I an editor there with any 'percieved' vested interests in it.

    The thread ?

    1) Extreme pornography, ended up being a 'moral' stance question as opposed to a 'legal' one with the OP eventually having to concentrate and pinpoint his original writings right down, to encompass simply bestiality and the word 'teen' to continue. He has got so bored now he's agreeing with Dmoz editors over the boredom factor of you two 'taking over' potentially productive debates.

    2) Next. we led into Legality and Gworlds inevitable 2257 stuff ( which is in every thread here ). That turned out according to you two and Ishfish..to be only legal for the organisation as a whole. It doesn't actually apply to individual editors like me. So I can list what I like apparently as long as it's legal locally and I follow my own local laws.
    I was only wondering why the endless complaints then that I and 100's of other editors follow and do just so ? That such a big fuss was being made and why the endless references to Californian law ? Why you'd want to make an 18 page thread out of the simple fact that what you say should happen is already exactly what does happen I don't know ?

    Editors follow Dmoz guidelines AND their own local laws and legalities. That's what happens anyway. Duh. :rolleyes: I list according the the guidelines first and foremost, and follow my own UK laws otherwise. You wasted a lot of time on that. For me and 100's of other editors, Californian laws and Gworlds endless references to them ? Not relevant at ALLto a very wide cross section of those who edit. You've actually still to say who exactly Califonian law IS relevant to. ( Read back, I and many others have asked several times). No answer even to my latest question asking the above, only insinuations I cannot read and am mentally challenged.

    3) Rest of the thread, editors bored with trying to tell or explain to you two anything and leave the thread. Ditto other posters including the OP given up trying to say anything. The only one left is me, so I get the usual 'mentally challenged', 'personal attacks' over my reading abilities and overall basic mental comprehension.

    A basic 'high five' between you two every post you make back seeing who can be the most nasty and demeaning you can be to honest questions, most of them not even directed at you. That is what you two do best here. Don't flatter yourself there is anything else happening here.

    Everyone else just gets bored.

    I'm also leaving this thread now. I know there will be another 'mentally challenged' and/or demeaning and disrespectful to another forum member post below. But I honestly and truly know I've tried to answer all that was asked of me, and have simply questioned things myself when I felt something seemed contradictory or didn't make sense to me. That is all.

    Go on guy's have another high five on me !
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #355
    Thank you.
     
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    IamwhoIam Peon

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    #357
    Shygirl

    I can assure you that the contempt expressed by Minstrel towards DMOZ editors and others is nothing compared to the contempt expressed by members of his own profession about him.

    I would like to pass on an apology to you and others affected for any distress you have had and may have in the short term future. Unfortunately, there are other considerations involved (the greater good, moral, ethical and so forth). Look forward to September.

    IamWhoIam
     
    IamwhoIam, Jul 3, 2006 IP
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Really? And how would you know anything at all about that? or about my profession, for that matter?
     
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    #359
    Aaaargh no. I should have stayed just chatting on the UK Big Brother forums...but sneaked a peak here. My sincere apologies everyone, I just gotta reply to the latest 'high five' going on.

    Since Gworld asked...and from the horses mouth.. Rough translation of my last post :

    I'm telling him and Minstrel that they tend to spoil any chance of real productive dialogue between webmasters and the editors here who chose to contribute, webmasters who want to see changes, and editors that are open and alert to other viewpoints on Dmoz policies, potential mistakes and the potential problems arising from them. Why else would people like Compostannie, Sidjf and Brizzie be here posting otherwise ?

    For me ? A lowly and relative newbie editor ? It's a one sided arguement when it comes down to simple insults telling other DP members ( are you serious ?) here that they need to learn how to read and study basic comprehension courses ? :mad: Or are mentally challenged in some way ? :eek:

    I do myself have real concerns over the extreme porn listed in Dmoz and the concerns the OP highlighted. But, I also wanted to pinpoint how we could differentiate drawing a line between what's just 'weird' and whats 'too much'. Wanted to know how I should differentiate between legal and illegal anywhere in the world no matter what I'm listing in any category ( Should I follow Californian law or not ?). Sadly the the answers were not forthcoming.

    I was told basically that I needed to learn to read. That is insulting in the extreme. Others have suffered far worse than me in their simple membership here. Every post is jumped on no matter what.

    It's not productive, it's not constructive and blinkered one sided ( fingers in ears 'la la la la') debating at it's very best.

    Over and out Gworld, this thread at least. There's your answer. Bye for now. xxx :D
     
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    IamwhoIam Peon

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    #360
    A predictably pointless reply. Read the post:
    It is in reasonably straight forward english and easy to understand and grasp the meaning of. But it is not the case of reading comprehension, is it Minstrel :rolleyes:? We both know that.
    Of course the one I am referring to is the one in your signature - though were you to suggest it was other than that (eg laughing stock) I would, of course, stand corrected.

    So I believe you have your answer. ROFL. Naturally the option is available to you to verify my statement by polling colleagues in your profession.
     
    IamwhoIam, Jul 4, 2006 IP