Can I hire SEOrs that don't get paid until after results?

Discussion in 'Google' started by cscott5288, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. #1
    I was wondering if any hired seors give quotes for a job, but don't demand payment till the job is finished.

    This is the kind of SEOing I want to pay for.
     
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  2. diligenthost

    diligenthost Peon

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    Would be a beautiful thing and I also would be willing to pay for this kind of service. Unfortunately I'm assuming the best you'll find though in that respect is 50% payment upfront, 50% after completion, but I haven't really looked into SEO lately.
     
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  3. allout

    allout Prominent Member

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    #3
    It is rare because most do not want to be ripped off. Look for people who have been in the business for a long time and do not make promises that are not always possible. Top spot on Google is possible but nobody can guarantee it. If they could, everyone would be paying them and there is only room for one on the top spot for any given keyword.

    Many do give quotes but want at least half up front. Most want full pay up front.
     
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  4. cscott5288

    cscott5288 Active Member

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    good point. it is difficult to give promises that can't always be kept. I wonder if there are SEO services that can offer the next best thing, like a percentage of the original quote based on results. Like if they achieved 5th place ranking in a month (with the quote being 1st in a month), then the payout would be -40%.
     
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  5. philsmith

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    The problem with the times we live in I am afraid. Yes if I could be 100% in getting paid for the job on time after the event then I would be more than happy to do the work. We will only work on credit or cash after the event when we have built up a relationship of trust with the client other wise to be honest it is not worth the risk.
     
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    Agree with the comments above,

    If a SEO'er can guarantee number one position for a keyword, he/she will be the only SEO'er on the net. Then again what if two different clients request the same keyword?

    Then he/she is screwed :p
     
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    bill9404 Active Member

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    good luck, your seeking something that doesn't exist
     
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    impact-productions Well-Known Member

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    I'd imagine you'd have to offer substantially more than they'd usually be paid for them to even consider it.

    Have you thought about offering to put the money in escrow, with 'success' conditions to be judged by an independent adjudicator? That might be able to put their minds at risk if they believe that they can deliver.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    Think about it from the SEO's perspective. That's a ridiculous proposition from a cash flow perspective. Why should the SEO have to incur the costs of the SEO work without getting a cent, and hope that you make payment when the work is completed.
     
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    It's like going to the supermarket and walking out with a 6-pack, saying you'll pay next week (if the beer was good, that is).
     
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    I'd have to agree with this. Website design perth.

    I think a better one would be, getting your car fixed, and only promising to pay in 12 months if there is nothing wrong with the car. The chances of that are low, AND the customer can do something to ensure they don't make it in the time frame..
     
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    Sxperm Notable Member

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    The process of effective search engine optimization has a cost involved. Not every processes are free so it is impossible to find someone agree to do seo for you without get paid any upfront. That is a business and not a charity. What would happen if they did a great result on your site and do not get paid? What about the costs they have paid already, including their times?
     
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    I don't think there is any of that kind.
    Since SEO is a very very uncertain job and no one can guarantee you anything.
     
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    kevin hemminger Greenhorn

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    Nothing is instant with google, a successful campaign that shows you good results might take 3+ months to come to start coming to fruition. Chances are you're not going to find someone who will work for you and not get paid for 3+ months.
     
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    Hello...

    Getting any site to the top of 5 million results is fairly easy but gets very hard for some terms,
    one and two word phrases and you would also need a budget to start out with for
    your back-link building campaign, so i doubt anybody reply's to this question as nobody
    is going to pull money out there pocket for your site then get jacked if you dont pay.

    laterz
    malcolm
     
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  16. agtile

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    It does exist, if you relay 100% on your own resources.
    If the customer fails to pay, you simple remove the BL all at once and down he goes :D
    There is many ways this can be set up, to work for both sides.
    You don't want to hire just anybody to do your SEO, and vice-versa, I wont work with anybody who just asked for it.
     
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    lindamood1 Active Member

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    if this is case, then people who doing job in seo will be pay not for salary bases and on google result bases !!
     
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    sherrylouz Banned

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    #18
    Nobody can guarantee you rank #1 in google eventhough you pay big seo company. why you need to hire somebody if you can hire yourself. though, there is no risk at the end, spend spare time to train yourself a lot of seo resources in the net.

    do you agree?
     
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    Isn't unfair to the SEO that you will hire? You either pay him 50 - 50 or you'll pay him FULL before he start the project.
     
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    Doubtful, as everyone above has said and, you usually get what you pay for. Think of those lawyers you see on TV whose advert is based on the idea that they only get paid if they win you money. Those people don't inspire much confidence but a Harvard Law educated lawyer who charges a $250 retainer an hour whether he wins or not, does. Thing is, if he stops winning, he can't charge that. Same with SEO. For anyone decent, you have to pay the $$ but they usually come with a reputation, will do all in their power to get the job done and done correctly, and provide long term results. Someone who offers to take payment only after results will probably resort to blackhat tricks to give a quick, non-lasting boost, disappear with your money, and leave you high and dry when the rankings come crashing down.
     
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