I can't help you understand that it is not simply about the best business deal or financial interests. Perhaps in a couple decades when India, China, Russia, and America are allied against the Islamic extremists who threaten all our countries you might finally understand.
LOL. You don't know much do you? Russia, China and India are all suppliers to Arab world and both Russia and China are major weapon exporter to Arab world. Iran and U.S. companies are just now competing who will be the biggest energy supplier to India through their pipeline (The real reason behind Afghanistan war). Countries and patriots act on what is best for their country and then there are people like you who put other countries interest above their own but we all know what those people are called.
Russia, India and China all have dealt with Islamic extremism. They, and the world as a whole, will continue to have problems. At some point those countries will have to fight the terrorists seeking to take over all or part of their countries. You are just a silly little boy, I would not expect you to understand. Nevertheless, have happy new year!
really pathetic. "Arab countries have money, Israel needs hand out from USA." That is the most ridiculous sentence i have ever heard. "Arab countries have money"? You are invited to compare Israel's economy to Egypt, Lybia, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Oman... economies. In addition, You are invited to compare between Israel's economy to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait... and see whose economy is OIL THAT IS GOING TO BE OVER SOMEDAY to KNOWLEDGE AND HIGH-TECH economy. "Israel needs hand out from USA" - With all due respect, and I have a lot of respect to USA, 3 billion dollars is 11 billion Shekels = 3% of Israel's budget. So even without US wonderful help, we will manage fine.
The size of Arab population is 50 times bigger than Israel which means bigger market for American product. Their combined GDP is 11 time bigger than Israel. Each of Egypt and Saudi Arbia are 2 times of GDP of Israel. If you can manage fine then why do you need to pay so much to American politicians and lobby firm to insure that USA "help" will not dry up?
You don't listen ah? "If you can manage fine..." - I said that the American aid help us a lot but we are not depend on it. "The size of Arab population is 50 times bigger than Israel which means bigger market for American product. Their combined GDP is 11 time bigger than Israel. Each of Egypt and Saudi Arbia are 2 times of GDP of Israel. " - You just proved that there hundreds of millions of Arabs that lives in poverty. Israel 7 million, Arabs - 300+ million. 7*11 = 77. You can do the math you are a big boy... aren't you? In addition, how many research centers and High-tech centers there is in all of the Arabs countries? How many in Israel(almost all of them are American companies)?
You have nothing to do but catch me in the small words? I meant that almost all of the strangers High-Tech companies that have researches centers in Israel are Americans companies. Of course there is a lot of Israeli companies... The American companies using the Israeli brain...
Ohad, I say this to you from the bottom of my heart...as an American of Jewish origins, I find the heavy-handed treatment of Palestinians to be deplorable. I do not defend the terrorism of groups like Hamas, but the plain fact is that Israel has made many innocent people into refugees, scattered to the world in a Diaspora caused by the one people on Earth who ought to know better. This breaks my heart, and all I can say is that my tzadakah will not pay for any more weapons to pogrom the Palestinians. I beg of all Israelis to call for a halt to the attacks on Gaza and make every diplomatic effort to find a peaceful solution to this mutual annihilation. The world is depending on you to find some way to peace.
This is very true, Palestinians can't make peace with a terrorist illegal state that been established on killing and massacres and expelling people from their home land.
This is not true. Anyone can make peace (compromise) with anyone if they are in stalemate but as long as USA is supporting Israel and they have the upper hand this will not happen. One of the two things has to happen if peace is going to have any chance. 1) USA leave Israel to it's own, so they can not continue because of economy. or 2) Other countries provide Arabs with sophisticated weapons that continued war will insure mutual destruction.
One of the better messages yet on here. I think Isreal should just go ahead and make peace with Abbas instead and show all the people on the side of hamas what can be achieved through mutual respect. This is the best way to defeat any militant group and make their power fade for good. Actually Gworld Ron Paul talked about this when he said that America gives 3 times the amount of aid to the arab countries as they do to isreal. He was against sending money and weapons to all countries and didnt single out a specific country.
Most of those Arab "leaders" are in U.S.A's pocket, so it doesn't matter since they are not fighting Israel. If by any chance, these countries one day decide to fight Israel, they know they will be fighting U.S.A and not Israel as history is shown. As long as there is no balance of power or terror, there will be no peace.
Your point is a valid one Gworld but what im saying is if America went on a normalization of its policies with all countries instead of a " Police the world" policy as ron paul were saying , things would eventually start getting better, but there are also arab countries like egypt that arent in americas back pocket that just want peace. They made peace with isreal and they got all of their land back. Peace is possible but not by hamas's means. Remember my talk on who helped to originally create and fund hamas.
If by getting better you mean a free hand for other anti-democratic forces to grow, then yes, that would happen. Exactly, the people there matured and understood that being barbaric and acting as if it's the medieval time isn't what's right these days. Very true. When a proper Palestinian government comes to life without being driven by insane religious beliefs - Peace will happen quickly.
f33lings you are talking only the parts of my messages that fit your beliefs. I mean like us destroying democracy in 1953, i mean like us turning a blind eye while saddam gasses 10's of thousands of kurds, i mean like us supporting regimes in saudi arabia that still are brutal towards women and have a very strict religious government, like us supporting the shah of iran who was never democratically elected , im talking about us helping the shah brutalise the iranian people by helping him form the most brutal and heartless secret police force this side of the ss stormtroopers the SAVAK. Am i more clear now? This is what Ron Paul meant when he talked about policing the world. If you doubt that these things happened why not check them out. What disturbs me more is that they dont disturb you and please dont just talk about Hamas the extremist religious group, talk about who helped to create hamas and funded it to combat arafats nationalistic movement. I dont think we need to talk more about AL quaeda and who built them up to fight against the soviets in afganistan do we
This has to be the 17th time you've mentioned the Iranian coup d'etat in the last week but you never mention that it was pushed by the british, who finally convinced us to join in through fears of the Soviets creating a puppet state in Iran. For the 4+ decades of the cold war the US was obsessed with the Soviets spreading influence around the world, and we were rightly obsessed and scared. The Soviets and Chinese backed forceful takeovers of other countries and when those countries were taken over, they didn't become any freer. The actions that the US took during the cold war(even though we may have overshot at times) are what is responsible for the world experiencing more freedom and prosperity during the time the US has been a dominant force. The world hasn't gotten better in spite of US dominance it has gotten better because of the US campaign against communism. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=10184511&postcount=62 You keep bringing up Iran but you never bring up Germany or South Korea? In Germany we defended the border from the communists and in Korea we fought a full scale war to keep the communists from forcefully taking over the rest of that country. How would South Korea be doing today if we had followed a Ron Paulian set of foreign policies? Hell we even trained the force that fought the battle that secured Iggysick's freedom to sit in a free country and bash the US over the internets. Ron Paul would be very disappointed. Why don't you just tell us and stop dropping hints. We didn't build up Al Qaeda. Just because some members went on to join Al Qaeda later on doesn't mean we built up Al Qaeda. We helped the Mujahideen to fight the forceful spread of communism in their country as we helped the South Koreans and South Vietnamese. According to you and Ron Paul it would have been better to just let one country after another fall to Soviet or Chinese communism, but to anyone who really knows history or has common sense, this would have been dangerously stupid.
I've corrected him on this many times. There's a point where someone can only be corrected and presented factual information so many times, before it becomes apparently clear that it's not "troof" they are after. This is illustrated by his going off into "ron paul mode," which is to in turn, blame the US for all of the world's problems. It was just a matter of time. He simply let gworld lead him into the illogical fallacy of "blame America for whatever is going on." Meanwhile, gworld is doing a marvelous job of reinforcing his hatred for America, Israel, Christians and Jews, while defending terrorists once again. If he's trying to mask it, he's failing miserably! I've corrected him on this myth as well. Pingy...is there any reason, other than hatred for the country you were allowed to immigrate to, to continue posting these deliberate lies, over and over and over again?