North Korea admits to Nukes

The only thing I hate about my country are folks like yourself who are dumb enough to vote for Nixon boys then come on forum and say I hate my country. Talk about speculation, your silly assumptions are just that and your intellect on issues is non existent.

Gtech you have no class nor can you debate man. You attempt to put words in my mouth and make judgments and you are qualified to do neither since you are the same guy that said the Iraq war is not about oil money

 

Would that be the same class as someone that spouts off there was no offical recount in ohio because republicans prevented it? Or has no outrage over the real oil theives, or puts his country down (at the tune of fabricating stories) at every avail?

My response was to see if in fact you actually cared about your country. Your response still leaves me wondering.

Maybe if I jumped on the easy bandwagon of:

No war for oil
Bush will plant micro chips in everyone
Bushitler

et al, I would win your popularity contest? It takes no effort to do those things, except to back them up in a debate.

 

You completely make no sense ever, here you are saying that the UN is in a Iraq food for oil scandal but at the same time saying that the Iraq war was never about oil.

Get real man, you are the reason America is hated around the world because you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

One tone for your Republican pig brothers and another for those who are not deemed as good as you view yourself.

Mark my words, the Republican party will be voted out of power in the USA like you have never seen in landslides in the midterm and the next Presidential elections for the Bush blunders of the last 15 years.

First they screwed us when Bush Senior left Saddam in power in the first Gulf War and now Bush Junior under the direction of his dad's administration screwing us again. The funny thing is that the American people never elected him in the first place man, get real.

 

Really, so you would like me if I said "there was no offcial recount in ohio because republicans prevented it." or how about "we're only in iraq for oil and bush's friends?"

Yet there is no outrage over the UN scandal? I disputed your claims previously and did everything except to back them up. What was it, three pages of mindless posting and you wouldn't back up your claims? I guess in your mind, that makes sense? Hmmm, interesting. How's the microchip doing?

Republican party, yes I recall you vehemently claiming that kerry would defeat bush. Will the democrats get that many more "hate America first" members to it's left centered party? There is a strong drive for democrats to get back on center right now. Even Clinton is telling democrats to stop whining and start focusing on a message.

So you are disappointed that Bush Senior left, and disappointed Bush junior has stayed the course? I hate to see what you do appreciate. Would your opinion be different had kerry taken us to war? After all, he all but begged Clinton to do so in 1998.

Don't take things personally, just debate. Put your facts forward and enjoy the conversation. You can learn a lot (if you choose to) in a good debate. That is, unless you just want to throw out mindless chants about oil for war and the likes. That takes no effort.

 

blah blah blah blah blaaaaaah, did you say something (AC) that actually has facts behind it?

A used car saleman can even sound like he believes that the 1989 for escort is the best car ever built, and this one was a one owner, little old lady who hardly drove that 250k miles.

AC you got to get out more often and live and quite believing everything you saw on TV.....

In 2 years you will get to see some elections in some states that will show if your theory is correct... then in 4 you will see again... Is the US getting sick and tired of the same garbage we have had dished out for quite a few years?? We will see more of the changes we have been seeing the last couple of elections.

 

Gtech, you are a waste of my time, I really have nothing to say to you because it does not register in your mind.


The only thing you could ever understand is what is already there and that is filled with errors.


When you are ready to discuss fact, try doing it one at a time instead of your very silly rambling.

PS: Debunked, you have finally found a partner in Gtech, you guys speak the same lingo.

 

ok, I'll bite.

Let's discuss fact, since it's clear that the defeat in Germany was an allied effort and not soley the Russians. Or are you still trying to argue that.

So let's pick back up where we left off yesterday.

In this post:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=9335&page=2

You claim:

Now I realize I'm going against your request for one at a time, but they both work together to make the primary claim that the elections were fraud.

I addressed the first paragraph with:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/2071226.htm?1c

Where it clearly shows there was an exhaust effort to recount votes and it showed that Bush won. Where is the evidence that Jeb Bush prevented poor and blacks from voting? Is that a personal beleif, or do you have any evidence to support this claim?

On to the second paragraph (and I do apologize for doing two at once here), you said:

What do you attribute that passage to? There was an official recount and it was published December 28th. Do you have information the rest of us do not have, or was that a blind statement in the heat of the moment?

Debates work well when you put for an effort to stand by your position. Do you stand by these comments?

 

You believe propaganda written by someone in Miami who is a Bush supporter, everyone already knows that the first election in 2000 was a fraud decided by the Supreme court and the secretary of state in Florida under Jeb Bush.

Everyone knows the reason the DEM's did not dispute the vote in Ohio because they also had a Republican governor and a Republican Secretary of State.

You are also in the wrong thread and are still wasting the members time by trying to get folks to believe lies produced by a newspaper in Miami that is a supporter of Jeb and the Bush family.

Typical Republican tactics that no one here will fall for but Debunked and a few others. Watched Fox news of late, they have the same type of propaganda 24/7 for your enjoyment.

 

Propaganda? Everyone already knows, or everyone has already been convinced? Perhaps the New York Times will work for you? I don't think there is any question of their liberal bias or their feelings towards republicans:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html

Democrats did dispute the vote in Ohio and there was an offical recount. Those results were released December 28th, 2004.

What is, and what you wish were true, are two different things. Just because you don't want to believe facts, does not make them factual.

 

Can you provide any evidence that Jeb Bush prevented poor folks and blacks (as you put it) from voting?

 

I know one fact that is sure, you are a bias propaganda artist on the Republican side and no one is falling for the fabrications of Bush winning the first or second elections.

Only in the minds of Republicans who are deceived by their own leaders are the results just and not manipulated.

Like I told you, you are way off topic and if you want to discuss Bush election fraud, start a thread on it.

 

Fair enough, I didn't think you would stand behind your positions or debate them. But it was worth an effort

 

Oh, and you can have the last word. I know how important that is to you

 

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that's all I have to say...

 

This thread is about Nuclear weapons not Bush Election fraud, if G-tech wants to discuss that he can start a thread on it.

 

PEACE is the answer.

I often wonder how the world would be different if mothers were the countries leaders.



The issue of equal participation by women is not simply an issue of gender equality and human rights but could represent the decisive factor in maintaining peaceful development in a troubled region.
- L.Seyoum, Eritrea




"Patriarchy finds its ultimate expression in war. War is the field in which the tough can prove their toughness and the winners triumph over the losers.

Wise feminists do not claim that women are innately kinder, gentler, more compassionate than men per se. If we did, the Margaret Thatchers and Condoleeza 'ice's of the world would soon prove us wrong. We do claim that patriarchy encourages and rewards behavior that is brutal and stupid. We need raucous, incautious feminist voices to puncture the pomposity, the arrogance, the hypocrisy of the war mongers, to point out that gorilla chest-beating does not constitute diplomacy, that having the world's largest collection of phallic projectile weapons does not constitute moral authority, that invasion and penetration are not acts of liberation."


Full article:
http://www.rapereliefshelter.bc.ca/issues/peace_starhawk.html

 

pe-a-ce? What is this strange concept you speak of?

 

In 2008 women may well run for President in both parties, today they said that the filthy Republicans may run Condi Rice, hard to believe they are that hard up to run a Bush Suck Arse that can draw the black and women vote that they need to win an election without fraud.

The dumb Dem's are going to run Hilary, that would be a big disaster, so we have two women running for President in 2008

I have nothing against women, but how in the hell is this going to make America look to have a Bush suck ass and an Ex-President's wife running for President.

I will move the hell out of this crazy country ASAP.

America is insane and all of our leaders and most of the people are completely fooled at this point.

GWB only wants another 80 Billion for his war effort for the next year and a half.

What a bunch of dummies we are to have such idiots leading this nation.

 

Anthonycea,
I'm sorry to hear you feel that way. I think this is a wonderful country and I am proud to be an American. If we do end up having two women running for the office of President, I think that would be great. It's about time.

We don't always get the President we want, but perhaps we get the President we need. Maybe, by seeing such extreme decisions by a leader it helps the country realize want we do not want in the future. It helps us to learn important lessons. And, it can help us to decide what we want America to stand for. The last two elections sure helped me decide what side of the issues I was on. And, I know a lot more people got involved and became interested in the issues. I think our country will only improve with age.


Just my two cents.

 

Where is the common sense anymore melaniejk, don't you think that is missing in our leadership in the last 15 years or so since Bush Senior and his first Gulf war disaster that is still going on?

The American people have paid enough, we are in debt (record national debt, record trade deficits, the economy sucks, we have record fuel prices) and there is no end to the "war on terror" and the money begging Bush Jr. He must fight the so called terror war that his daddy brought on us (Saddam caused it and Bush left him in power) and he is now finishing us with more Bush debt leadership (put us all in debt and our grandchildren to pay for his daddies mistakes and thefts).

This disaster has to end for the good of the American people at some point and the only way it can end is to send the Bush's the same place Nixon was sent.