Lets gather all the advices on how to get a website listed in DMOZ!

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by 3DProf4online, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. Anonymously

    Anonymously Notable Member

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  2. winifred gray

    winifred gray Peon

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    #42
    I was thinking that he doesn't have to be an active editor to make helpful suggestions.

    Okay, let me try and say this in a helpful way not like a bitch, dmoz should set up some type of system so that they know who their editors are, they should have to provide some proof of identification.

    That way many things could be prevented, like multiple accounts, favoritism towards their own sites when those sites don't deserve it, tracing editors by their ip address and not realizing that it's a network and everyone on the network has the same ip, then banning one editor when actually the other one was at fault, that would hurt people's feelings if it happened.

    Anyway, it could be done by asking for an SSN, people don't like to give those out but if they had incentive they would. If dmoz were my site I would set it up like About.com, the editors there are gauranteed $700.00 a month for the first two years and then they get more if their category does well.

    I know dmoz doesn't want to be commercial but even non-profit companies pay people to work for them, I don't know exactly what the mission is, but they could raise an awful lot of money using that model, and the money could be donated.

    I don't know, I'm just avoiding doing real work right now.
     
    winifred gray, Nov 19, 2008 IP
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    penielproducts Peon

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    #43
    I have been trying for over a year to get my site listed, and so far, nothing. It's good to hear it may not be an issue of a poor site, but more of a lack of help.

    I have thought about trying to become an editor, but has it really come to that?
     
    penielproducts, Nov 19, 2008 IP
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    winifred gray Peon

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    #44
    dupe

    doopy droopy duplicate sorry
     
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  5. winifred gray

    winifred gray Peon

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    #45
    What are your goals as far as trying for a dmoz listing?

    And what do you mean by trying for a year?
     
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  6. penielproducts

    penielproducts Peon

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    #46
    I'm not sure I understand as to what you mean by my goals? I would just like to be listed under the furniture section of the directory.

    I first submitted in Sept. of last year, then again about 6 mo. later and most recently a few months back.
     
    penielproducts, Nov 20, 2008 IP
  7. winifred gray

    winifred gray Peon

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    #47
    Your goals, as far as a dmoz listing, do you want to increase pr, sales, traffic...?

    I looked at the furniture category, it has so many listings already at the top level that it is unlikely that anyone will see you, also any listings there will have to split the pr with all the other listings so not much there either.

    I don't think it's worth it to focus there anymore - if you submit again it will move your submission to the bottom of the list anyway.

    With your type of site I would focus on adwords for sales if you're not already.

    If you want free links I would develop some sort of free resource related to furniture because it's hard to get free links to a shopping site. You may have this already, I looked briefly but did not see one.

    Furniture is a good topic, lots of information in design art history and tons of related products. You could do a dictionary of furniture terms for example, if it's good people will link to it and it will increase your pr.

    Educational institutions and government sites with content firmly under their control are trusted sites (by google) these are the links that will give you a special boost, and these are the sites worth making an effort to get in to - unless you just want to pay for it (adwords) or both.
     
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    #48
    I heard they don't like exclamation points (!) at the end of sentences, and they don't like capital letters except for the start of the first word in a sentence. And they want well constructed sentences. (just like that one - hahaha). Do they actually notify you if you do get in. I have submitted 2 sites and never heard a word. Oh Well!!
     
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    #49
    Thanks WG. I guess as far as that goes, I would really like to see more traffic to my site. I know people say an aweful lot of negative stuff about DMOZ, and I'm sure some of it is true, but I think it is a great resource.

    Its one of the few directories that Google cares about, and I was thinking that because so many other people link to it, it would get my site out there. I'm sure it won't do much for me as far as SERPs go, or PR, but I am hoping it would help out with traffic.

    I am currently doing what I can as far as link building goes (ie. articles, squidoo, pr), but I know I still have a long way to go, in that area.
     
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    #50
    None of those things has anything at all to do with whether or not a site is listed. :)
    Neither does site design (unless it's unreadable), page rank, number of backlinks, or any of the hundred things that webmasters worry about.

    The only decision an editor makes when reviewing any site (whether or not it has been suggested to the directory) is "Does the site offer enough unique content to add value to a category?". That's it. Seriously, that's all we care about.

    If you suggest a site to the directory, it helps to provide a sensible/accurate title and description, because if an editor chooses to look at suggestions when finding sites to add (and of course no volunteer is under any obligation at all to look at suggestions), he might be drawn to the one without a silly keyworded description.

    Rewriting the titles and descriptions to meet the ODP editing guidelines is precisely what editors do, so the above quote refers to editors, not people suggesting sites. :)
     
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    #51
    That's right except for the traffic part and the part about Google liking it, dmoz does not send much traffic, and Google cares about dmoz but not in a special way.

    Google has special trusted sites, these are sites that are run by universities and governments, not by anonymous volunteers like dmoz.

    Alot of the misinformation comes from old data, dmoz used to be a very powerful link, and I believe it did give sites a boost in the serps - but that was 10 years ago - it is NOT true anymore. Google has confirmed this since so many people were wondering.

    It's just a link and in your situation I would not consider it a good link just because their is a huge number of sites already listed on that page.
     
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  12. penielproducts

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    #52
    Maybe I will just treat it like a Ronco Rotisserie oven - Set it & Forget it ;)
     
    penielproducts, Nov 21, 2008 IP
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    #53
    Generally, the best advice.
     
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  14. Qryztufre

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    #54

    winifred gray
    , You should have followed the good Reverend's example and created an Anonymous account here... that way your ODP profile would have been safe ;)

    So much for serving the END USER... lol.

    Honestly is, in the end the best policy... though, heh, even if you do list affiliated sites in your application that in no way shape or form will stop other editors from saying you are biased or calling you our on the number of edits you made. Though, that only really applies to becoming an editor.... though, I guess any thread on the best way to get a site listed SHOULD be about how best to become an editor... it does seem that it's far easier to get editor status as they do give you multiple tries at that, unlike site submissions, as with those anything more then one try is construed as spam (lol).
     
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  15. 3DProf4online

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    #55
    But if a website is submitted to a wrong category DMOZ will not notify you about this! Your website will be rejected and you will wait for a long time till decide to resubmit to a new one!
     
    3DProf4online, Dec 2, 2008 IP
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    #56
    Absolute balderdash. I've spent most of my morning editing, a good half of the effort in moving listing suggestions to the correct category for further evaluation. Were it not for people deliberately suggesting their sites to honeypot localities instead of the correct ones, I could have listed twice as many sites - and theirs would likely have been listed faster.
     
    jimnoble, Dec 2, 2008 IP
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #57
    I'd say its not absolute... heh, I'm sure there are some editors that could care less about sending a wrongly submitted site to the correct cat and simply oust it. Though, I do applaud your efforts and the efforts of the many other editors that DO go above and beyond the editing standards and actually do care enough to move a site to a better location, or better yet actually LIST the site where it should be (though I know some of the editors can't).

    So while I say it's not absolute, in many cases it's certainly balderdash :D
     
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    #58
    I would like to say I have submitted one my e-commerce website to DMOZ 3 times to different category each time and it was accepted after the third attempt only!
     
    3DProf4online, Dec 3, 2008 IP
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    jimnoble Well-Known Member

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    #59
    That just proves that you're happy to ignore our submission guidelines and cause three times as much work here as you need have done, thus slowing down the whole process for everybody else :mad:. Nice.
     
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    #60
    i'm trying from last 6 months but failed....
     
    myselfsandeep, Dec 3, 2008 IP