In General, What Type of Site...?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by HWolfpack6, Nov 29, 2008.

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    In general, what type of site do you aim for when attempting for a high listing in Google and lots of revenue?

    I'm a little new to this, so I'm just curious.

    You need to have a lot of pages of good content, correct? So sites that offer services generally are not good for SEO (because you can't have a lot of pages for a service site).

    Does that mean I should stick to things like blogs rather than services?

    I realize I have no set in stone idea behind this thread, but could someone just offer up the best advice to finding 'the niche'?

    I have a site now, but it's a service site, which means it won't attract many visitors, correct? It attracts mostly High School boys and male football fans, ages 21-35.

    I just made it, but it's not a TLD and it hasn't been indexed yet (uploaded yesterday).
     
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  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    More pages can help make seo easier, but a smaller site can still get good rankings. You would just have to rely on external backlinks, instead of also getting a bunch of internal links.

    If your site offers a service, you would likely be competing against other service based sites as well. So you might not be at much of a disadvantage.

    To have the most success, try to target something that you're interested. I targeted credit cards and it's such a boring topic that I'm not motivated to work on my websites.
     
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  3. HWolfpack6

    HWolfpack6 Banned

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    So should I seperate ideas into branches? I enjoy computers, music (specifically 3rd wave ska) and sports, specifically football and baseball.

    Then I try an go into smaller branches of that?
     
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    HWolfpack6 Banned

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    Is that method correct?
     
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  5. Dan Schulz

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    You have three types of sites. Personal and community sites (many blogs fall into this category), informational and educational sites (government sites, educational resources, and so forth), and commercial sites (sites that offer products for sale and/or services to be rendered). Each one can rank well in the major search engines and generate more revenue than Uncle Moneybags can shake a fistful of cash it if developed, optimized and marketed correctly.

    That's not only okay, but also perfectly understandable. It's also a great question to ask, and I for one am glad you asked it.

    You don't need a lot of content - you just need GREAT content that others will naturally want to link to. You'll also have to know what keywords and other search terms you want to target as well.

    And yes, service sites (which fall under commercial sites in my list of three categories above) can rank well in the search engines. In fact, any site can rank well for anything if you put some effort into it.

    No. You can target any category you want. You just need to know what you're going to target and who your intended audience is going to be. Most services (unless you're dealing with online only ones) tend to be provided to those within a 50 mile radius (or 100 mile diameter) of the provider's physical location, so a local search optimization strategy would be the most effective to pursue.

    With regard to blogs, that will depend entirely on the blog's topic and how well you get along with other bloggers (networking).

    Look at the top of my post. Try to figure out which of those three categories your new idea falls into, and then ask here in this thread for more information. Once I know what you're planning to do, I'll be able to better guide you in the right direction.

    What's the site?

    Again, what's the site? (And for the record, TLD is just the extension on the domain, such as .com .net .org .info and so forth.)
     
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  6. HWolfpack6

    HWolfpack6 Banned

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    Hi! Thanks for the site.

    Now I am switching web hosts because the one I use now doesn't support SMTP, so I can't use my form.

    But for now, here's my current/old URL:

    http://footballhelmets.freehostia.com/index.html
     
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  7. Dan Schulz

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    Okay, so you have a services site. Granted, it's a free service, but it's still a service. Under normal circumstnaces you'd probably want to stick to contextual advertising here; however since this involves NFL teams (and the league), you'll need to get a licensing agreement from the National Football League and the respective teams (all 32 of them) if you're going to try and monetize this type of site (otherwise they'll force you to take it down through legal means). If you decide to just eat the costs and not monetize it, then you may be able to get away with using the logos under the Fair Use Doctrine, though you may want to talk to an attorney about that just to be sure.
     
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    whats your niche? build your niche make it happen... I was in MLM first so that worked for me follow the leaders......that helps
     
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    I should have thought about the legal stuff, damn!

    Should I exclude the use of the NFL, and just make it High School?
     
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    HWolfpack6 Banned

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    What's MLM? Is that where you open up a store full of Amazon stuff, and they pay you for selling their stuff through your site?
     
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    You could make it high school sports. Just ask the schools if they wouldn't mind you using their logos. As for MLM, I think he's referring to mid level management (what I like to call mindless zombies).
     
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    OK. I'll get rid of the Lions helmet and the helmets on the gallery page (or replace them w/ fake logos, then I need to get text ads, right?
     
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    Alright here it is:

    footballpride.x10hosting dot com (won't let me post live links)

    Do the ads show on the right hand side?
     
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    There's a link, I have changed it up a little. 0.00% CTR in my two days on. :D

    How long on average does it take to get indexed? I've submitted a sitemap to Google.
     
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    i would like to put my 2 cents.

    1. if you want to make some profit out of it then you must see how much demand this niche has. If it has very less demand then profit will be negligible.

    2. See other sites that are same like yours. Try to understand how they operate and are built. And then try to do better than them.

    3. Also get rid of all those x10hosting and freehostia subdomains.. If you want to provide professional service then a TLD is must. if you still want a free domain go to www.co.cc or www.dot.tk ... But if you have faith in this niche then buy a TLD from namecheap or godaddy.


    That turned out to be my 3 cents :D
     
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    HWolfpack6 Banned

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    I don't believe this is a profitable niche, so I may just get a dot co dot nr (can't post live links).

    Here's where the problem bursts out. What kind of tools can I use to find that niche?
     
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    #17
    you should go for co.cc because it will give you the freedom of setting up your DNS.

    Use google adwords keywords tool
    seobook keyword tool
    and wordtracker free keyword tool.
    you can get these easily by google search.

    type the keywords related to this niche. Since you are well informed about this topic you can should an idea what would people search while looking for something in your niche.

    type those KW's in the above tools. get an estimate about the traffic.

    But also check out the competition. USeful link: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543721
     
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    Thanks for the links, tools, and help rome. :)
     
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    Just curious, do you guys make your own templates or do you use pre made one's?
     
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    if you can afford, get a custom template..but it all depends on the return..if the returns are high then one would make a cool template..if its not so profitable. get a decent looking but good theme.

    my advice: take a free template first. Check how it performs. Then get a custom one.
     
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