Made $5,802.50 in November, want to make MUCH more

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by SEO-Expert, Dec 1, 2008.

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    I've been creating affiliate revenue reports since June this year and publishing them on one of my sites, it's helped increase my affiliate revenue from $2,000 a month to approaching $6,000 last month. I've found writing it all out helps see what's going well etc... and motivate me.

    I've set an arbitrary goal to be a millionaire by the time I'm 45 years old (currently 38), created this goal as a way to inspire me to work harder since when working on affiliate type promotions you don't have a boss or anything on your back to work harder: I've been self employed over a decade, so always good to find ways to motivate as I'm the boss :)

    I don't seriously expect to be a millionaire at 45 years old just from affiliate revenue, but it's the aiming for something that's the main thing.

    Last month I had my best month making $5,800, though a few years back I think I had months where I made more than this, though not much more (haven't previously tracked revenue by month) when it was so much easier to rank affiliate based content in Google.

    My affiliate based revenue is the result of quite a lot of sites built over the last 6 years or so, currently making money from three main sources.

    AdSense, Clickbank and private ads with each making a significant amount of the $5,800, but Clickbank being the best at almost $3,000.

    Although I have quite a lot of websites: about 100 domains registered with 30 odd decent sites the earnings from Clickbank in particular is mainly from one website. The site in question was earning about $2 a day from AdSense a couple of years ago when I stumbled** on the Clickbank program, so without Clickbank the site would still be making a tiny amount of money!

    ** Was my eldest son who first tried Clickbank, I saw him making $30 some days from a trickle of traffic and realised I could easily do that as well :)

    So with one website you can do really well with Clickbank. Most of my Clickbank money comes from a handful of pages and 200-300 organic search engine visitors a day.

    So for those looking for inspiration it's possible to do well without having to spend your entire life creating affiliate pages and working on SEO techniques.

    Now I'm looking for more ways to make money online along the lines of Clickbank where the revenue share is at least 50% and the program is protected like Clickbank: I don't trust individual affiliate programs, too easy for someone to not pay the full amount.

    Any thoughts?

    Almost forgot, my last revenue report is at http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/affiliate-revenue-report-5802-for-november-2008.html

    David Law
     
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  2. kallell

    kallell Peon

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    I know this will probably get shot down, but what offers are you currently running with clickbank?
     
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  3. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    Such bullshit. Just another bunch of lies used to try and sell something. It happens way too much on DP.
     
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    How come so much Adsense on the site then? I would expect to see some better-paying ads than that on your site.
     
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  5. DPParadise

    DPParadise Well-Known Member

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    And for someone who do it 6+ years I expected some higher earnings, not current that low...but...
     
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    Don`t you want to show us some proof?
     
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  7. thezou

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    #7
    Totally. It's impossible to make money online.

    Seriously, which part sounds so unbelievable to you? I made 5-6 times that amount, daily in November, 5k is peanuts.
     
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  8. SEO-Expert

    SEO-Expert Well-Known Member

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    Erm, there's only one problem with your analysis.

    I don't sell anything related to making money as an affiliate, closest (and it's a stretch) is I have a dozen SEO/AdSense templates I sell, but this sort of post ($3K from CB, $1K odd from AdSense in a month) is NOT the way to sell those templates. As I said in the post I'm making more from Clickbank from a few hundred visitors than I make from AdSense, and if you bothered to check any of my others posts you'd know I get up to 20,000 visitors a day to my sites and $1K odd from AdSense with all that traffic is terrible: I have some really crap traffic from an AdSense perspective, low CTR, low cost per click which accounts for around 75% of my current traffic.

    Other than that I currently don't sell any products, (the templates are the ONLY product I sell) no ebooks of my own for example and though I've had it in the back of my mind to write one, one day and IF I ever do it will be about SEO not affiliate marketing, that's about as close as I'll likely get to offering a product related to this in the next 12 months.

    My expertise is in search engine optimization not affiliate marketing, affiliate marketing is what I do in my spare time (which I don't have a lot of) and as others have said $6K a month from affiliate marketing is peanuts. I'm too busy with my SEO business to devote significant time to affiliate marketing.

    So what's bullshit and what am I trying to sell exactly?

    My post was to inspire those who haven't got a clue what they are doing and aren't making any money, there's loads of people reading DP who would be set for life if they could make over $5K a month every month and this isn't hard, I make a hell of a lot more than this from my business, but that's not what this post is a about.

    I also made the post to gain some more ideas of what to look at next affiliate wise, like I said affiliate marketing is not my expertise, for example I was browsing DP earlier and looked at a post about Azoogle, prior to reading the post I thought that was a program was basically another AdSense.

    David Law
     
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  9. SEO-Expert

    SEO-Expert Well-Known Member

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    Main reason is AdSense is easier than adding specific ads per post, yes not the best way of using what I have, but it's time consuming looking for the best products to promote.

    David Law
     
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  10. SEO-Expert

    SEO-Expert Well-Known Member

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    For what reason?

    I realise a lot of people post a load of exaggerated revenue posts to DP then try to sell an ebook or something.

    I don't have anything to gain proving I made almost $6K last month from affiliate type revenue.

    It's also quite funny being asked this since it's less than $200 a day, with Clickbank products making affiliates $20+ per sale you only need 10 sales a day to get that amount from Clickbank alone. I made about $3K from CB last month so only needed 5 orders a day, not exactly mind shattering sales numbers :)

    Now if I managed to get to say $5K a DAY from affiliate revenue that would be impressive (especially if it involved little effort like my current affiliate money) and might warrant a product, but then if I was making that amount why would I spend time creating and marketing a ebook to help others supposedly do the same? Personally I'd rather spend the time repeating what I did to get to $5K a day and move on to $10K a day if it was so easy :)

    I maybe should have added a poll to this post, who believes I made almost $6K last month from affiliate programs :)

    David Law
     
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  11. rajuthan

    rajuthan Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Post some screenshots to prove your not a phony like others
     
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  12. SEO-Expert

    SEO-Expert Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Sheesh, only $6K and you need a screenshot that is easily faked.

    Here you go then screenshot from a minute or so ago.

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    Typical, having a really bad day today as well, no orders so far!

    The November period is covered in the image.

    David Law
     
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  13. MakeADifference

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    #13
    Congratulations..!!
    I know you have been doing affiliate marketing for long time and it is much deserved success. I hope to break the 5k barrier one day. I had $2.6k in November . Hope to create more websites fast to break 5k within next few months.
    How do you promote your sites? Organic or PPC? Which CB products worked for you (if you do not want to answer this, I understand).
     
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  14. NCMedia

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    #14
    Lol,

    It's unfortunate that DP has grown into such an interrogation corner that people can't distinguish real from fake anymore...

    I have seen SEO-Expert around long enough to know that there is no reason for him to puff out his chest with 6K, and this is more than real/possible... take the advice you can from it and spend your time wisely, perhaps try to befriend and or ask for some genuine help to achieve the same.

    Cheers to you SEO, keep preaching.
    NC.
     
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  15. usapatriot

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    So you make between $30,000 and $36,000 of profits each day? That is between 11 million to 13 million in profits per year. If true then congratulations on such a great achievement.
     
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  16. sontoloyo

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    There are so many people here can make decent profit from Affiliate but none of them tell in details how they do it, especially how they promote. Most of them simply just like kids telling his success. And I don't know for what.. He...he... and if thed get asked they will say that's my secret.....he..he..
     
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  17. Chancey

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    CAn you share some of your secret on how you doe it?
     
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  18. thezou

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    Revenue, I don't discuss profits. But yeah, revenue last month was $x,xxx,xxx.
     
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  19. SEO-Expert

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    Grats on $2.6K, if it's not your main income it's great having the extra money. In June I was making $2K a month, I put more effort into affiliate marketing (guess it would work out a few hours a week over the 5 months) and have almost tripled my income in 5 months.

    All my traffic is organic with 95%+ organic search, biggest chunk by far is from Google. Last month I was averaging around 15K AdSense impressions a day, have been as high as 50K when Google liked thin affiliate sites :) though most income then was from Amazon affiliate stores and at 4%-8% revenue share from Amazon you don't make a lot of money from tens of thousands of visitors a day: from memory think I was at about $100-$150 a day from Amazon from at least 20K visitors a day, which SUCKS, though I did make a similar amount from AdSense, but still not a lot for all that traffic!

    My AdSense income is low relative to the number of impressions because a big chunk of the traffic is from literature sites, (William Shakespeare etc...) no matter what I've tried can't get the CTR above 2% and the cost per click is significantly below 10 cents! I have days where newer sites (have made a few sites where the content is aimed at AdSense) with a couple of hundred impressions makes more than several thousand impressions from a literature site!!

    The biggest success by far recently is Clickbank, which I'm relatively new too (about 15 months according to when I opened the account). Been dabbling in AdSense/affiliate marketing for years, but have never taken it seriously, first few years all the affiliate type income went to my wife's account as extra spending money: $5-$10k a year makes a nice Christmas for the kids. Even now I'm not that serious about it, have dozens of sites I could add affiliate promotions on and haven't because of time/interest.

    My speciality is search engine optimization, been learning SEO for about 10 years and offering SEO services for about 8 I think and do really well. Most of my sites were originally built to link to my SEO client sites, but as Google's moved the SEO goal posts on buying/selling links I've stopped offering that as part of the service (too risky, could get clients sites banned!). So that's left me with tens of thousands of pages indexed in Google etc... with no real role.

    In my spare time I've been researching Clickbank products to promote, so far found a handful of interesting ones and a few of those I've written reviews of and done some basic SEO promotion (linked to them). Everything I write now is automatically SEO'd, years of rewriting content for clients and you automatically write that way. I've even done it above, last two paragraphs I've wrote SEO 6 times and search engine optimization once without even thinking about it :)

    With Clickbank I've had most success promoting a couple of products (90%+ of the ~$3K I made last month from CB), I know a lot about these products (used them before promoting them) so not only was they easy to review I knew they were good and millions of others might want them. Interesting thing is those products pull in a few hundred visitors a day, so the $3K isn't even from a lot of traffic, I think almost anyone could do this.

    Other products I've picked just to make money from haven't fared nearly as well, a combination of not fully understanding the product and there not being a big market for them.

    The biggest problems as someone who relies solely on SEO means for traffic is:

    You need a site/sites that have a fair number of backlinks (pretty much a PR4 home page minimum that's been PR4 for 9+ months) and has the ability to rank new content relatively well: that means if you put a page up about an obscure theme your site will be top 5 out of around 10,000 other results in Google as soon as it's indexed. This puts you in a position to work from, you add your product review which if it's not a too saturated area will rank top 30 for most of the relevant SERPs (assuming you'd SEO'd the content that is). Then by adding new backlinks you can increase your rankings in the future through off page SEO means.

    I have about 20 sites that are like this, so have plenty of options for reviewing new products, next problem is finding quality products! Majority of Clickbank products are rubbish, which is why I've only found a handful of products to promote so far (have to admit to not putting much time into it).

    What I expect will happen is as I test and review new products the majority won't do particularly well, occasssionally I'll find a good product which will add to my monthly CB income. Good news is over time if you can keep reviewing new products you should hit gold occasionally and even the reviews that do poorly will generate a little bit of income over time. If your relying on organic traffic like I do there's little to loose (other than time) writing a review on a product that doesn't sell well.

    Not going to say which products I do well with, don't want more competition as it's already niches that have too many reviews written about them :)

    David Law
     
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    I do not understand if I had to believe all these things.. Recently I brought a book for $10 and there was nothing new in it.. It had got all the old story which was re-written a bit...
     
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