On this forum, are there any peaceful Pakistanis and Indians? Not those who would love to see war between two countries. Anyone? Note: if you're not one of them, do not bother posting in this thread.
Interesting. You have called me a hypocrite? Could you show me one comment of mine where I suggested there should be a war between India and Pakistan? I, for one, have accepted the fact that there is Hindu extremism in the country that I live in and on top of that I proclaimed that I'm an atheist and have a hatred for all religions, not just Islam in particular. It just goes to show buddy. You pick and choose your facts. If you wanna play it that way, do it. I don't have an issue.
^ Buddy, I thought you were on *common ground* with me, but in most of the threads, you claim one thing then you go about your regular business of saying comments such as "...So, you can come out of the closet now. " in replying to me. I don't want to be childish, I was just pointing out what you said. Anyone?
Yes; I did. I said that because you kept denying the fact that the terrorists were from Pakistan despite the fact that the one who was caught alive has admitted it. I am baying for the blood of terrorists in Pakistan - not the harmless civilians. I hope this seals the issue.
Look man, I have nothing against you, and I shouldn't. This is a friendly discussion. Now if my posts didn't clarify that I "admitted" then that's not my problem now is it? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=9944755&postcount=1 at least that should say something along with my other posts. This is my last post as far as "issue" between me and you is concerned.
I am one of those who do n't want a war between India and Pakistan But if Pakistan(ISI) continues to support LeT and AlQaida we would have no other option but to launch precision strikes against those terrorist camps.. We do n't thrust Pakistan citizens because some of the citizens still have a hatred look towards India even though we see them as our brothers and sisters.. I hope in future we would be again together as it was before 1947...we would always welcome Pakistan brothers but not those who are in NWFA and in Baluchistan..
Good, thank you. You see, there are some Pakistanis who believe RAW is training (in Afghanistan) and arming the militants that cause havoc in Pakistan. So it goes both ways. That time has gone, the Imperialist British wanted us to be apart and they achieved their dirty goals. No way it will be back to 1 nation.. good thought though. and some of Indians think the same of Pakistanis, hence this thread. and Why not those people in NWFA and Baluchistan? They are not human? They are poor and illiterate that is why they have been influenced and are being easily terrorized, not their fault. They are as much as human as us.
Now they might know that RAW is never capable of doing that .. as it's not even good at safeguarding our country.. Also ISI supported these organisations at the beginning that's why.I do n't think ISI supports these organisations now but there amy still some official support for it.. who knows.. I still think it's possible under some kind of federal setup like that India separate and Pakistan Separate.. but under single Umbrella.. Yes but even you guys are having problem with them that's why.. I think your NWFP is the root cause of all problems.. those people are not educated .. and they do n't believe in us and like that so many things..even you are having problem with them..Only when they realise they can't be without the support of a big country they would come to us.. each and everywhere we see a indpendence movement like that..
What you state doesn't make sense, if RAW is not capable because they couldn't control their own problems, then how is ISI capable if they can't control their own problems. The real problems are both these secret agencies. I know you're smart, do you really think there is an intelligence agency in today's world that IS NOT supporting any criminal organization? RAW, ISI, CIA, Mossad..all the same crap. NWFP may be infilterated by terror groups but it's not the root problem, again there are REAL people living REAL lives, raising families..etc I have seen the cries of those people when Pakistani/USA bombs their houses and kills their children, mothers, brothers, sisters, fathers.. By eliminating NWFP, there will be more war. I think there is a force out there trying to divide Pakistan into pieces, but as long as the Pakistanis are alive, this won't happen. In recent news, the tribal leaders from NWFP region offered HELP to the Pakistani government if India is to attack.
I do n't think ours is capable.. due to our stupid politicians.. ISI have been caught with direct involvement many times but not RAW this does n't means RAW was not involved in those operations.. I do feel for the people.. but those regions are trying to break away from Pakistan I do n't know why they are doing it.. whether it's is orchestrated by some external forces.. ???? Because I certainly feel there is more trouble in NWFP than in Kashmir as of now.. Taliban and others are ruling there and not Government of Pakistan.. I also feel that they should not be separated from Pakistan but how the radical elements in that region can be cleaned? Throw some more light on this issue..!!
They can be separated from this madness if the international community gave them back their dignity. The dignity that they and their family lost while fighting for the USA in Afghanistan. Remember there are millions of Afghan refugees still in Pakistan. Plus, people generalize all the people in NWFP. It is a region where these people own their own land, are farmers..etc In their minds, if ANYone attacks their land, they will fight for it. Because that's the only thing they have over there, LAND. But USA and allies don't care, they send drones there firing at targets killing women and children! Now how would the people react? Simply tell me that? Mumbai got attacked, how are the Indians reacting? Pretty pissed off right? Now Imagine Mumbai times 100, what goes through the child's mind when he's living with this? What goes through a father's mind? He will fight for his family , his land!
Wow. In a thread about potential conflict between India and Pakistan precipitated by Paki Muslim radicals assaulting India... he made it all the way to post 12 before directly blaming the US for the trouble. LOL. He's slipping. He has but one song to sing... but he's started at least half a dozen threads to do it. Hey kid... grow up and figure out there really isnt a "boogie man" that causes all the trouble in the world. There's just a lot more to it than your personal one-answer-fits-all mentality can grasp.
What you say his correct .. I am not against those people who are living there..I am going those Talibans and AlQeda who are there (Radicals) It's USA which used these people for their own purposes..now they are attacking themselves... I am against USA drones and fighter aircraft attacking those unarmed women and children.. if they are real warriors they should come via land and attack those people .. but they are not.. we have seen this in Afghanistan and in Iraq how coward they are.. To be frank ..American Government thinks that a American's life is equal to life of 100 people which is not.. The solution to this problem lies some where else rather than bombing those regions for elimination of them We should get some good clerics who know the real truth that terrorism is not going to lead you anywhere..They need to educate those people and then there should be economic development in those regions to faciliate interaction of people with outside world.But none of the current breed of Politicians would be interested in that as this means losing their votebank.. (this happens in India also) The other problem in that region is they are mostly uneducated people they depend upon their tribal chiefs for guidance .. This is where these tribal chiefs and politicians are going to use it to their own advantage.. Also US should understand every friendly fire ( killing innocents mistakenly/delibrately??) would create of 100's of terrorists... If a person's child or sister is killed in a drone bomb whether he is going to keep quiet .. no way he would be joining these organizations like (LeT,Al-Qaeda) to take revenge against these people There anyone who supports America will be a enemy for them.. This is where most of the organisations like LeT,Al-Qaeda thrive upon..Most of the terrorists have their own story to tell and some of them are brainwashed to a great extent.. I hope there would be a young good Dyanmic leader for Pakistan who must able to solve most of these problems..