Hi Im just wondering is there any technique that we can establish to get our site out of sandbox without waiting for that speacial period of probation.. Any ideas or suggestions.... Pls lemme know.. Thanks.
Nope, lots of rumors but nothing certain. Just keep doing what your doing and when it's time you'll be out. Google is not the only way to generate traffic.
The "sandbox" means that google will not factor in your backlinks when calculating SERPS (PR and backlinks still show). Matt Cutts has stated that it does not apply to every single sector - however, imo it applies to any competitive keyword. It's an aging filter and as such, there is absolutely nothing you can do to get around it but wait. Having said that, backlinks are only one part of the google ranking algorithm so it is possible to rank based on other factors (like on page optimization). The sandbox doesn't mean you can't rank well - but it virturally impossible to rank well for any competitive keyword without backlinks being factored in. Just continue to build quality backlinks and eventually your backlinks will be factored in.
mjewel is right on this - It took me a freaking 1 year to get to the first page for a very competitve keyword, but only 1 month for less competitve keywords.
hey thanks for the suggestions but got a little disappointed for not having any particular ways or algos to cure it rather than waiting ........ Thanks.
stop getting poor links with thousants! like : stop getting 1000 backlinks from PR0-PR1 links exhanges, or from links farms! stop getting 20 000 backlinks from forums signatures. And keep your existins backlinks! A very good way for getting out of sabdbox, is stop getting links, and keep your existings ones. Links that lasts... this is what google really wants And in the future only get quality backlinks!
OK --- Should I send an e-mail to National Geographic asking them to link to me? How about NASA? The Library of Congress? Sorry about the sarcasm but I have been banging my head against this --- unless someone with a relevant high ranking site takes a real shine to what you are doing on their own the chances of getting "quality" backlinks are slim (and DMOZ doesn't help much). Forum posts count enough to at least get you indexed. My sites grow 10% to 20% per month. I can deal with that, but it will be a long while before they even pay their expenses, much less my time.
Quality backlinks are from 'relevant' sites at least. Huge sitewide links from off-topic sites aren't going to help much at all. Link exchanges aren't going to help much either. One way on-topic links from sites already well indexed by Google are the way to go, but this still probably won't help you escape the sandbox much faster.
I Agree. I Have Heard It Again and Again and Again. "One way links from high ranking relevant sites." But if you are selling something then the relevant sites are YOUR COMPETITION. No Way No Way No Way are they going to link to their competition. Even if you happen to find a site selling something that is a similar topic enough to be relevant yet is complementary not competetive (such as a saddle seller and a horse seller???), Why Would They Put In a One Way Link? Where is the benefit to them, assuming you do not pay them (which Google considers sinful)? I hear this refrain over and over yet nobody explains how this can be done. If you had a non-commercial informational site maybe you could send a whole bunch of emails to all the top sites in your field and a few might like what you are doing enough to link to you. I believe that is called "spam". Maybe I am just too negative to see it, but this "high ranking relevant links" stuff seems like horse puckey.
For most industries there are non-commercial sites such as news/information portals, trade associations and directories. As well as this you can also look at vertical companies within the industry rather than just your direct competitors. Look at setting up other site/sites on a different domain and IP address, preferably with different WHOIS records. Aim to make this site useful and a resource and try to include a directory. If possible get a .org domain for this. Aim for this site to be the definitive resouce on all thigs in your industry. Make people want/have to link to it. Perhaps for your directory don't insist on a recipricol link but ask politely for one. Ask them to link back to your commercial site. You'll find that most won't but some will. Also use the other sites for triangular or 4 way non-recipricol exchanges. No, send targeted personalised emails to people. This isn't spam. No, it's hard work and takes time and money, but done properly you can end up with 2-3 high ranking sites within an industry sector which produces fantastic returns.
Thanks Matt for your considered response despite my bad attitude. This has to be one of the friendliest boards in the field. As far as i can see, the operative factor is time, and a lot of it. My selling site is a year old and is getting a fair amount of traffic, but sales are slow. Part of the problem is that I need to spend a month learning PHP in order to make the zen cart more user- and SEO- friendly. I already have nearly that much in it and the returns do not justify more effort. It will happen. I have several other on-topic sites and a number of off-topic sites, most link one way to the selling site. Different domains, although they are on the same server. In other words time, time working and time waiting, and a whole lot of both. Add to that what I heard of Google's extending the sandbox in highly competitive terms (like my main keyword) to three years. The key is time.
Yep, it's all about time, I'm not sure Google has extended the snadbox to 3 years, but you should be looking at a 1-2 year plan at least. It sounds like a long time, but you'll find the rewards are worth it.
TRUST RANK or a theory I have is more clicks on ur actual listing in the serp. I'm actually testing this theory. dontbesingle.com myautomod.com coloradoautosales.info bestautoinsurancequote.info
If they are not doing that then they should be. There ought to be a way to filter out the bots - because bots can click too. But the link popularity idea really worked only back when the internet was mostly filled with PHD papers.
Google has a patent for trust rank and so does yahoo. do a search for google trust rank or yahoo trust rank you will see their patent. secondly a great example of trust rank being used today is when a movie comes out. A relativly NEW website will come up for a competitive keyword in no time becuase of the millions of dollars in contextual advertising that they do. for instance motorcross do a search for that and you will see a movie called supercross. When that movie first came out it went straight to the top of the search engines bypassing the "sandbox" and the greatest thing about those powerful links.... supercross the movie has NO text on it and its all images again proving how important links really are!
just have quality backlinks. This effect will be over after few weeks or months may be 6 months to a year. I have read about this few minutes ago because my site is also sandboxed.