If I say the word SERPS enough times on every forum, will it make me rich? I suppose I could get a PR 10 and just have no worries ever again eh..... Never heard so much crap talk about SERPS in my life, it's a pointless debate as it boils down to money, and how much you throw at advertising in those SERPS. People buy advertising because it's more effective than free listings.
the best way to get a pr of 5 is to keep working on your SEO. It isn' t easy to get a pr so you must spec that it would be harder to get 5.
Some people will tell you all kinds of shit about PR and what it does. In my opinion, people are just giving you their opinions on the matter. No one knows a clear answer about it at least to my knowledge, obviously the big guys at Google do. The question you want to ask yourself is, how does Pagerank affect my SERPS? Truthfully, now in my opinion, remember these are opinions. The PR doesn't effect the SERPS. Just do a search yourself for some prime keywords on Google and then copy/paste the site into a page rank look up. More then usually, depending on how tough the niche is, the PR is low. I'm talking 1 or 2. Now does that make sense? You would think the PR for any thing on the front page would be close to the middle, if not more. Just my thought.
I am among those who believe that PR has "some" importance — not hugely important, but certainly not meaningless. The nice thing is that you don't have to be concerned directly about PR. Just use a good linkbuilding strategy, and for those who are concerned about it, the PR will come. It is a result of good links.
Even the PR affect the SERP, but seem the effect is not too much. You can see many PR0 website are listed on top of SERP
watch for selling text links - Google may penalize your PR. just had a blog go from PR5 to unranked in a day
I think that both the SERPS and your websites PR are just as important. Say, a person has a PR Tool bar Installed and wants to see how reliable your website actually is. Well, the PR could give a judgement of your websites character and show a level of trust to that visitor. Traffic is needed, because without it; you have no sales, no visits, Well.. nothing at all. Regards, ~ Mike
I assure you Mike, that no amount of PR score will tell you anything about my site. I've seen sites that are truly amazing, visually, that get probably 1000's of visitors a week, yet are given just a PR 3. Then again I've seen disgusting looking sites, with no traffic and they get a mid-range PR score eg: PR 4. Not that I care, but pagerank is definetely wrong/screwed up. It's incredible how so many get wrapped up in this fantasy. Get a life I say.
PR a "fantasy"? When Google (©2008 Google) says, "PageRank reflects our view of the importance of web pages", I would call that a bit more than a fantasy. If PageRank reflects Google's view of the importance of my web pages, that means a lot more to me than the view of posters who have swallowed the Kool Aid and continually repeat the noble-sounding but erroneous mantra that PR is worthless. http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html
PR a "fantasy"? When Google (©2008 Google) says, "PageRank reflects our view of the importance of web pages", I would call that a bit more than a fantasy. If PageRank reflects Google's view of the importance of my web pages, that means a lot more to me than the view of posters who have swallowed the Kool Aid and continually repeat the noble-sounding but erroneous mantra that PR is worthless. http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html
but erroneous mantra that PR is worthless. Oh dear, please don't liken me to the above quote - the quote is worthy of novice status, I don't appreciate it, it won't get you my help and I'm so much more than the guys on here. You don't know me okay. This is just another thread with the old-tired argument - just like panto. "Oh no you didn't, Oh yes he did". lol I bet 100'000 people removed the Google toolbar last year, and they won't be the last. Only webmasters care about it - it's worthless to the millions outside of that group. Unfortunately that group will never buy from the webmaster community, but they do buy from me!
Hmm, must have been my mistake. I could have sworn that your posts put you among the "PR is worthless/useless" posters. For example: • this thread, where you refer to PR as a "fantasy" — http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=9898189#post9898189 • Or this one, where you say, "It's about as worthless as pagerank" — http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=9901682#post9901682 • Or here, where you state, "Pagerank is a joke ... completely useless as a grading tool" — http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=9883216#post9883216 So we have "worthless", "useless", a "fantasy", and "a joke" as your evaluation of PR. Am I misrepresenting you?
You are judging me unfairly. My company doesn't chase PR, because we found during massive research of many websites, that PR can be manipulated by getting loads of on-target links. A website can be badly designed, yet still get targeted links, thus if it gets enough of them, it's PR will rise - correct.. So, the bad website is now a eg: PR5 - sorry but that's been judged and graded poorly. PR is supposed to represent 'authority' right - but it gets it wrong by upgrading the wrong sites and downgrading the good sites. Links are just part of the process we know yes, but it's an important part and the system is faulty because everyone takes advantage of it every single day and even boast about it on forums, so we know its going on. This is fact, not lies, fact. Just like the SERPS, PR has been taken advantage of so much, those that do understand it, now uninstal the toolbar, because there's just more ways to judge a website than before. Infact, the last thing I look at when judging a site is the PR, then the next last thing is amount of links, then the domain etc etc, and if the site's homepage doesn't appeal - the site doesn't get our business, never mind getting our attention. People are not stupid, many web savvy people out there, and they aren't fooled by some green pixels and they vote with their mouse buttons, which is the best way - don't like something, the next site is just a click away. Wishing you success.
Just I have said in other thread, PR is not so important... Its just a figure HOW google rank your website from 1 to 10.
PR means that your site is more "important" compared to other sites, though I just build my own personal website for fun and I got PR5. I'm thinking to sell some links now to make some cash out of it
PageRank is just one criterion Google uses in figuring out how to rank pages. A site with a lower PageRank will show up higher in the SERPs if Google thinks it's more relevant than one with a lower PageRank.
I let my visitors and advertisers judge our importance. How do they do this? - by using our targeted services. Judge a site's worth with your eyes and not because of massaging of other's inflated egos..... to much of that going on.
If your blog is having a higher pagerank, your articles will be listed on top pages of search results without much effort and submissions.