phpBB VS SMF VS MyBB

Discussion in 'vBulletin' started by Tarkan, Oct 17, 2008.

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  1. lufbra

    lufbra Peon

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    #261
    I guess that like most folks here (including other SMF users like yourself) I shouldn't really expect anything other than a response like this from you. I truly hope you don't deal with things in "real life" in such a manner, that manner being of someone who's been proven wrong and who's only retort is to use sarcasm as their defence. That to me is the sign of a loser and a coward. The funny thing is that here within forums anyone can post/type whatever they want, but most folks do this with respect to others because they respect others opinions. Your posting a picture of an unfortunate person (who more than likely has a great family) is very disturbing to say the least. I find it extremely disgusting that you'd stoop so low to do such a thing, but as I said we shouldn't expect anything less from you!

    You've called so many folks liars here, yet you have nothing to back that up other than sarcastic remarks. Despite this, you've also lied yourself on numerous occasions, saying how safe/secure SMF is and how it's hacker safe. Here's a quote from the SMF Community...

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    I have "bolded" some text for you, that part of the quote clearly shows that the creators of SMF found security issues with more than just one version of SMF. How did they find out these problems? Most likely they were found after someone had "hacked" into the software. Of course they were good enough to resolve the issues once they knew about them, and figured out what was wrong. That'd be just the same for any other forum software company, including MyBB. Almost everyone here has the same opinion that SMF is the most secure forum software, I'm still wondering why this could be true. As I believe I have stated before, forum software is only safe until exploits have been found, and we can all admit that every forum software has had its' security issues.

    I'll answer my question to you. You had to upgrade your forum because of security issues, despite your constant ranting/raving here saying SMF is hacker safe!
     
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  2. crappy-ownage

    crappy-ownage Peon

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    #262
    In my opinion, SMF is a good forum software. It has very good security, and they replicate a lot of mods and hacks from vb like paid subs, rss, seo mod, links checker (implemented before in phpbb, although not made free to public) and TP (sorry if these are old mods as I have made forums long time ago). Their Admin Panel is also good, especially the way you set permissions on boards. The theming system is also good, I have formatted an old theme in 3 hours. Sorry guys but the only screen I can find is of the login box.
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    The only problem I had was hiding boards and having them viewable by url only and the lightbox mod.

    Mybb is also another good forum software - the only reason me saying this is because the way it imitates vb. Very good work from the developers. But they must improve on some pages, especially the profile page - its horrible and dull from my view. On mods, they are way behind smf. On themes, some are pretty equal with smf but others are just the same work done over again. On security, I'll say its pretty ok.

    PHPbb should prolly be the worst forum software I tested. Especially the security, I had spam emails on my inbox like the Nigerian scams, people posting on my board if they want to remove my site from their spam list then would post stuff like "Okay, this is a happy moment.
    I fixed the washing machine. I tried this a few weeks back and nothing worked right then (got it working though), but today the thing just fell apart again.". Anyway, just bad security so didn't bother trying it again.
     
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  3. MrSandMan

    MrSandMan Well-Known Member

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    #263
    Cry me a river. Clearly you're a troll. But I shouldn't expect anything less from you.

    Yes 1.1.7 was released due to a few recently discovered security issues in SMF 1.1.6.

    But look at this. MyBB was (and still is) vunerable HUGE security flaws and 100's upon 100's MYBB admins were running to refuge. Many MYBB's were under relentless attack for A LONG TIME. This is why MYBB is known for their downright horrible security.

    SOURCE
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    I can posts SOURCES all day long. But I really have stuff to do. Just do a quick search on Google and you'll find how horrible MyBB really is.

    Read above. For your one SMF expoit (which has been resolved) I just posted hundreds upon hundreds of MYBB exploits and why MYBB users needed to upgrade because MYBB was under vicious attack.

    And as Shadow82 pointed out, MYBB is a tiny community forum software with not many users compared to SMF... and they're already having this much trouble? That's why SMF is considered one of the most secure forum software available. The SMF team are on it.

    Guess what, MYBB 1.4.2 has some horrible exploits. That's why I suggest MYBB users to back up often... because MYBB is a security risk.

    SOURCE


    Perhaps they were found from hackings or maybe the SMF team are more proactive and set out to find such exploits through relentless work on their part.


    SEE ABOVE. I linked sources for you.

    I upgraded like wordpress send out upgrades, joomla sends out upgrade, vBulletin sends out upgrades, IPB send out upgrades. We upgrade because the company sent us updates to upgrade.

    My forum has never been hacked. It's SMF. My guess is that hackers are looking for easier forums to hack.. like MYBB - SOURCE
     
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  4. Tarkan

    Tarkan Peon

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    #264
    The source you linked are security vulnerabilities, not exploits for 1.4.2.

    There is no known exploit for the latest MyBB versions. You fail AGAIN.

    Conclusion: MyBB is more Secure than SMF.
     
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  5. MrSandMan

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    #265
    LMAO!!! Now dude who can't even install MYBB on his own server want's to twist the debate to Vulnerabilities vs. Exploits vs. Security issues. WEAK! Another desperate attempt to scew the debate off topic. What a sore loser!
    You FAIL
    http://www.secuobs.com/secumail/btsecumail/msg14222.shtml

    ====================================================================== Advisory: MyBB 1.4.2 - Multiple Vulnerabilities Release Date: October 27 2008 Application: MyBB Version: MyBB 1.4.2 Platform: PHP Vendor URL: link://[click] Authors: Kellanved, NeoThermic, Techie-Micheal =======================================================================
     
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  6. shadow82x

    shadow82x Active Member

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    #266
    You keep on stating myBB is more secure than SMF but you still fail to reply to my posts. Let me say it again because I'm sure you have forgotten since.

    Size: SMF is about 10x the size of myBB and myBB has tons more vulnerabilities than SMF. Feel free to check any site such as http://www.milw0rm.com/.

    Current Vulnerabilities: You keep on stating there is a SMF vulnerability while no proof of concept to scare people while you failed to post a advisory of any sort or hack any 1.1.7 forums. Again fail. SMF1.1.7 has no public advisories if so please link us... The link you provided before was for under SMF1.1.6 and I tested it on 1.1.7 and it failed.

    Code: Just compare the SMF and myBB code and you can clearly tell SMF was built more secure.

    Conclusion: Any software can be hit with something but some softwares are secure than others.

    Getting sick of repeating myself. Don't know why I'm still here. I also already proved SMF holds lots of features myBB doesn't yet you keep insisting "MyBB has more features and is totally more secure." At some point in your life you will have to come to realize nothing is perfect.
     
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  7. MrSandMan

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    #267
    Don't expect anything sensible from this poster. He's clearly is trying to smear false allegation about software that he has no clue about.

    He'll keep deflecting, lying, referring to outdated sources, and just argue off topic subjects until he crawls under his rock again.

    The guy likes getting slapped around I think. Maybe he loves attention, even if it is negative attention. That's an insecurity issue about one's masculinity. Clearly the guy needs more help than we can provide (i.e., medical help). I knew a kid in college that was a compulsive liar. He would try to convince anyone that blue is the same color as red or earth is really the sun... ya know, some really wild stuff like Tarkan is trying to convince people.

    I doubt he'll stop lying. He loves the attention too much.
     
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  8. lufbra

    lufbra Peon

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    #268
    It seems that you have a short term memory problem that could do with some medical help...

    Just earlier today you posted links (SOURCE) to pages showing MyBB exploits. Those links range from 2005 to 2008. But hey, it's you posting this, so that's okay to post outdated resources.

    You've also been doing a lot of "deflecting" here too, when asked questions or had facts given to you, you've deflected by using your pathetic sarcasm, proving my statement about being a loser and a coward, but hey, it's okay for you to deflect. Then there's the lying, it's been shown time and time again that you've lied in this post thread alone, but hey, it's okay for you to lie.

    This Post Thread will tell you that it was the SMF team finding these vulnerabilities (I'm beginning to feel the same way as Shadow82x what with having to repeat things), but if you think about it your statement kinda goes against the "security" of SMF, it's like you're admitting that they may just not be making their software as safe as it's made out to be........I think you dropped a boo boo there, but because it's you that's okay.
     
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  9. MrSandMan

    MrSandMan Well-Known Member

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    #269
    There is this word called "context". Look it up.

    You keep dwelling on an OUTDATED 1.1.6 security flaw when 1.1.6 is outdated and 1.1.7 is current. Why do you dwell so much on a an old outdated version?

    Oh how you have such a short term memory...


    Well duh, sparky!

    Pretty interesting that you, of all people, want to get in a spitting contest with me, yet you are the one dwelling on old out dated versions of SMF.

    So it's okay for you to pick apart SMF because they updated... yet god forbid anyone bring up MYBB's past.

    LOL- You are too much.

    Look up this phrase my friend, "Double Standards"

    Why do you like being exposed for being the noob that you are? Why do you like being humiliated?
     
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  10. lufbra

    lufbra Peon

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    #270
    Not sure what any of that has to do with anything about posting outdated links.

    Not dwelling at all, just stating facts about your lying when you say SMF is hacker safe, yet you had to do an upgrade not too long after making such statements, if your beloved SMF is so good, let it "speak" for itself instead of putting out lies!

    As for double standards I did look it up....

    :D
     
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  11. MrSandMan

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    #271
    You wouldn't :)

     
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