Datacenter results question?

Discussion in 'SEO' started by Caios, Jun 9, 2006.

  1. #1
    I have mentioned this in another thread but I cant work it out and its annoying me.

    For the keyword sykes pickavant I am 12th on a normal google search almost every time.

    Yet, when I checked the data centres last week I was 9 or 10 on all of them. Now this week after messing with some stuff the newly cached pages are 7th right across all the data centres apart from some that still show me 9th or 10th. I cant find a data centre that Im 12th on using mcdar, but when I search normally through tool bar Im 12th as I have been for ages. Ive tried clearing my cache, logging out of google, restarting my browser and getting other people to try the search.

    Can someone explain whether data centre results are real/live or not? Because I thought they where. Help whats going on? Sandbox effect?
     
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  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    It could be geotargeting that is affecting your results.
     
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  3. MediaHustler

    MediaHustler Well-Known Member

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    Shows you ranked #4 & #5 for me.
     
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  4. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    Thanks for taking a look.

    Is that through a normal google.com search MediaHustler?

    I’m in the UK, my servers in the UK and my domains UK registered. But I’m starting to think that too many of my inbound links are non UK maybe. geotargeting because of inbound links issue then?

    Where is mcdar located?
     
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    theblackjeep Peon

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    I got a post of yours in a DP forum on June 1st showing up 4th on my default dc, and you 10th.
     
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  6. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #6
    If you're in the UK, and your servers are in the UK, then search results from a UK IP search are going to rank you higher than a US IP search - i.e. google thinks your site is more relevant to people in the UK because of the host. - where your site is hosted affects search results.

    Geotargeting
    "..some search engines (such as Google) have the ability to filter search results based on their physical location (geotargeting). This could be used to determine why your site is showing in a certain country."

    http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/website-country/
     
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  7. MediaHustler

    MediaHustler Well-Known Member

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    Yes normal google.com search.
     
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  8. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    I did hear that google also looks at the location of the links to your site when measuring geotargeting. But that was probably only some ones theory.

    If it isn’t that then what is the cause? If most other people who search see me on the first page then it would be a cache thing local to me. But so far it seams that its only US searches that Im on the first page for not UK. Could the US being using newer results maybe? Perhaps the results wont be copied over to UK relevant data centres until google have finished what ever there doing.

    So far thanks to mediahustler I know that the goof results are showing up in the US.

    theblackjeep, where are you located?

    That’s interesting that because of the anchor text in my sig on here that a post from here is showing up in the SERPS above my site. I hadn’t noticed but Im not surprised. If I search for Britool the 2nd page has two pages with text links to my site containing the word Britool. But my own site is result 58th. This has to be a sandbox or time factor? I mean is it usual that keyword loaded text links to your site on irrelevant sites show higher in the SERPS than the site they link too? Doesn’t seam right to me.
     
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  9. I. Brian

    I. Brian Business consultant

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    No, it's been an observation of mine for some time - Google really does seem to take geo-linking into consideration with geo-targeting.
     
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  10. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    Brian, can you do a search for sykes pickavant and see if Im on the first page. It would really help me out if I had some other UK people check it.
     
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  11. I. Brian

    I. Brian Business consultant

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    I see you at no.12 from here - but the UK results have been pretty unsettled.
     
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  12. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    See it is looking like its got something to do with UK vs US. Causes anyone?
     
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  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #13
    Not necessarily. ALL the Google results have been unsettled (nice way of putting it) or totally mucked (less nice way) for some time now.

    My advice is don't be making major changes as a result of what's going on in Google right now. Google is NOT fixed, despite repeated assurances from them that it is. Even the Sitemaps team continues to make the same errors they have claimed are now fixed.

    It's Public Relations, not Page Rank, for Google at the moment.
     
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  14. I. Brian

    I. Brian Business consultant

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    Indeed:
    http://www.platinax.co.uk/news/11-05-2006/google-is-broken/

    I'm seeing UK results recovering though - seem to be getting more settled from where I'm looking at.
     
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  15. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    Now does anyone know why at

    google.ca Im 4th for sykes pickavant

    but on

    google.co.uk Im 18th

    As Ive been posting above in this thread this geotargeting totally messed up.

    I need some advice please to repeat the result on .co.uk
     
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  16. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    That's not unusual, Caios. To start with, check the number of listings returned for the seacrh term on the different regional Googles - usually, it varies quite a bit. Additionally, on the regionals, Google gives precedence to sites hosted in the regional or with the relevant regional domain.

    What's the URL and where are you hosted?
     
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  17. Caios

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    Im hosted in the UK and its returning the almost the same number of listings.

    Im doing well everywhere in the world apart from where I am and my market is, in the UK!

    Its anoying!
     
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  18. Caios

    Caios Peon

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    Anyone help me out on this one?
     
    Caios, Jun 23, 2006 IP