How about getting bulk backlinks from the same domain?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by psdealer, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello guys,
    suppose if I have connection with a PR6 website,I get backlinks from 10,000 page of this site.Does google thinks these are 10,000 backlinks?Is it this way effectual?
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Sitewide links are not "natural" and will be discounted.
     
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  3. psdealer

    psdealer Active Member

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    Hi,what does "not natural" means?
    Do this bulk backlinks help keywords ranking.
     
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    bruce-banner Greenhorn

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    I don't think sitewide links are the best. Why don't you try getting links from inside the content, relevant to your site and landing pages.
     
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    psdealer Active Member

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    But I saw some sites do the same thing and get good PR.I think sitewide links can bring many anchor text links and help my keywords rank well.
     
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    #6
    I'm sure they are discounted, but they are not something to worry about, since plenty of CMS types of sites (for example), which have almost complete internal linking. It's common to end up with sitewide backlinks.

    However, they are diluted and not nearly as valuable. As mentioned above, Google will likely discount them a bit.

    It's much, much better to have one text backlink on one page with content related to the page that is linked to. That is ideal.
     
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  7. psdealer

    psdealer Active Member

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    Thank you for your tip.I still have a question:
    If there are many PR>1 pages in this domain link to my homepage,will the situation be good?
     
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    psdealer Active Member

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    Another question:
    If we don't consider PR.Do Sitewide links (anchor text link) help keywords ranking?
     
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  9. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    PR passes from the page that links to you. If the page has no PR (maybe because it has been blocked by google) it will not pass any PR. The PR of the site doesn't matter, it's the PR from the page linking to you. You should really forget about PR - which in itself, won't help you rank any better. You want links from sites that already rank well for the keywords you are targeting.
     
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    psdealer Active Member

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    Thank you for your tips very much.But I don't agree at this point:
    1)You should really forget about PR - which in itself, won't help you rank any better.
    ----I think,If a page have good PR and link to my page using anchor text link,it will help ranking.
    2)You want links from sites that already rank well for the keywords you are targeting.
    ----If this viewpoint is correct,it will be very very hard to do link building,isn't it?Base on this viewpoint,Suppose if you have a mp3 site need link building,you must find sites that have word "mp3" ranking well in google.You will feel very hard to find such sites who wish to link to yours.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    You aren't going to rank in the top ten for mp3 so you should forget about it and concentrate on less competitive keywords - especially if your site is new.

    I've only been doing this for over ten years- if you think getting links from unrelated niches is going to help you rank well, then you know more than I.

    Most people fail at building a successful site because they think PR is all they need to rank.
     
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    I'm not running a mp3 site.just a metaphor.I'm confused about PR now,what does PR do now?Is it not useful at all?
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Relevance is the key. If you have a medical site, you want other medical/health sites to link to it. You really want "trusted" (already ranking in the top 10 or 20 results) medical sites - trusted sites tend to have higher PR. It's not the PR that will help you, it's the "trust" from the related site. If you go out an buy a bunch of footer links from an MP3 site for your unrelated medical site, then your PR may increase, but it isn't going to be worth much for ranking well.

    If you had a blog and found a great site you naturally wanted to link to, are you going to put the link in the footer of your blog, on every single page - or is it more likely that you would write a post about the site and include the link in the content? Links that don't look natural can be ignored completely by google. The more a links looks like someone paid you to insert it, the less likely it is going to count.
     
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    psdealer Active Member

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    :DThank you for your post,that really help,though it is really hard for me to do such job.
     
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    jitendraag Notable Member

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    I have more than 1000 posts on DP and some posts are PR3, it doesn't have a bad effect on my websites. But I normally avoid sitewide links unless it's a blog.
     
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    rena Peon

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    More links from same domain or IP not much benifit, always try tomanage from differnet domain. Also her is a chance of google consider its a spammy link
     
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    google no longer consider this, its not the best way
     
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    #18
    Google isn't a big fan of sitewide links, they are fully aware of what is going on, so it might count for 1 link but not 10,000.
     
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    I think google will count the backlinks you are talking about . Still , I think it also depends what keywords you try to rank for and what is the competition.
     
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    Thank you for your posts.

    conclusion:If a domain have 100 pages link to my site,AND,EVERY page have PR>2.Is this case positive or negative?
     
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