Is Obama A Natural Born Citizen?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #781
    First off, The BC could have been faked before factcheck got hold of it. Factcheck didn't necessarily fake it, they just took pictures of it, or maybe they did fake it, who knows.

    Look, The truth is your right, all this evidence isn't enough to say whether Obama is or isn't a citizen, and who cares at this point, that's not what this is about. This is about the fact that there is enough to make one wonder...why wont he just provide hi BC to the court? In fact it makes more than one, wonder, its more like thousands across the country, that are asking..."Why not show it, and shut them up." Im sure your hoping like crazy that he shows it and you can start the "I told you so" thread. And quite frankly i hope he does too. I dont care anymore if he is a citizen or not. I just want him to answer the call of the American citizens which will be paying his salary. We should have the right to question our presidents citizenship. He works for us...at least that's what they tell us anyway.

    I will have to remember this next time i apply for a job. "Whats that Mr. Employer? Nope you cant see my BC." "What do you mean i cant have the job?" "Obama got the job without his BC, And he's the freakin president of the US" "Oh i see, government requires you to see it, but not the president, no his job apparently doesn't matter in comparison to mine"

    Makes no since at all!


    Come on Obama Shut me up already!! Im tired of this thread.

    By the way George, your sad attempt to fake spelling errors on the red rep you just left doesn't work. See its things like that, that make me think your not such an honest open minded person. Be a man next time and leave your name.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #782
    Tell that to Laureen Bacall, T. Boone Pickens or Jimmy Carter.

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    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #783
    If you don't care whether he's a citizen or not.... well you know what I'm going to say next ;)

    And sorry, but any admin or mod can confirm for you that I did not leave you red rep. I only return rep when people give me green. I haven't left red rep in over a year and it certainly wasn't in P&R. Check the time stamp on your rep. I've been offline for hours and my last post is when I logged off.

    People who do so without leaving their names are cowards. I've said as much :)

    Good to hear it bogus. Those folks aren't on their last leg at all. :rolleyes:

    BTW wikipedia is biased. Those people might not be the age they claim. I want a vault copy of their birth certificates and an interview with their doctors :D
     
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  4. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #784
    Thanks George,

    I apologize for the accusations
     
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    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #785
    I just gave you green :D

    The scaredy cat that gave it to you is likely afraid of you ;)
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #786
    Yeah, its actually the second time i got this type of rep here what it says

    And he's calling me dumb? :rolleyes:

    Anyways, see how easily things get worked out, when you produce the proper evidence to prove your innocence. You jumped to it right away to end all question and suspicion. Why wont Obama do that? Most people with nothing to hide would, as you have just shown.
     
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  7. GeorgeB.

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    #787
    Because enough is never going to be enough. bogus is living proof of that.

    Obama could produce video of himself coming out of his mother's vagina on the steps of the Washington monument while everyone standing around him ate apple pie and sang the national anthem.... It still wouldn't matter because internet rumors never die. Do you know how many people STILL and will ALWAYS believe he is a Muslim?

    Obama has a choice... he can address every nuisance lawsuit, every internet rumor, and every innuendo attacking his character, by allowing unprecedented intrusions into his personal life. Or he can accept that there will always be accusations and move on to focusing on REAL issues with the weight of the world on his shoulders and all eyes watching.

    (I bolded unprecedented because, sure you can say "well after all this is about the Presidency". But ask yourself what president in history has ever had to go through what you're asking him to go through. What president or candidate has ever been taken to COURT just to prove their own citizenship???? It's demeaning and insulting to say the least. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe at all that this is racially motivated on Berg's part. They saw a crack in his armor and they went after it..... That's fine.... But the fact that he is the first black president and the first one to have the bar set a little higher here points back to a road we don't want to go down again.)

    Look at it from his perspective. He KNOWS he is a natural born citizen and that the majority of rational thinking Americans do as well. From his perspective, this is behind him already. It was a nuisance lawsuit by some nutcase OBVIOUSY intended to hurt him in the polls. If the Supreme Court should decide that he is required by law (I doubt it) to ask the state of Hawaii to release a vault copy of his BC so be it. He'll do it, and yes I would come back here and say I told you so :)

    But do not assume I would be happy about that. It would in fact be a sad sad day, because it would be the day that the first elected black president became the first ever president to have to prove he's "one of us".

    And with the world watching. Just imagine how that is going to look.
     
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    #788
    Thank you for you moving rhetoric.

    But, I still want to see the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate released.
     
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    #789
    But wouldn't it be a biased copy from the biased Hawaii Dept. of Health?

    It'll say he was born in Hawaii, but what would that prove? It's biased! :D

    No rhetoric there :rolleyes:
     
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    #790
    I trust the American born in Georgia, Clarence Thomas, to review the vault copy of Obama's birth certficate as opposed to a website factcheck.org that is run by Willian 'the weatherman' Ayers and Obama.

    Obama is not above the US Constitution.

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    #791
    wtf are you smoking?

    How did you get this being me saying this was racially motivated out of the quote "I don't believe at all that this is racially motivated"

    You need to leave that Cheech and Chong alone.

    P.S. Bill Ayers and Obama now RUN factcheck.org?

    <sigh> bogus, my special little friend.... I just realized that I need to get you a yellow plastic helmet for Christmas.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #792
    You're entitled to your opinion.

    That's the American way :)
     
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    #793
    My point with that long post above is that nobody wins here.

    Unless you truly believe he is not a natural born U.S. citizen (which I tried to get you or ANYONE else to say for PAGES and you won't) then nothing will be gained by doing what you're asking except embarrassing the president of our nation.
     
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    #794
    John McCain provided his birth certificate and medical records to clear up any doubts.

    There's nothing to be embarrased about if Obama is not hiding anything.
     
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    #795
    And then he wouldn't be our president would he.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #796
    How is Bush going to be embarrassed by this?
     
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    #797
    .....

    If you believe he is not a natural born citizen.

    Then you are correct.

    Is that what you believe?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #798

    We don't know. That's the point, I believe most are making.
     
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    #799
    I said the President, not the lame duck :p

    You don't? Really?

    Why not? What makes you think he is not?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #800
    Bush is currently president.
    Obama is currently president-elect.

    ;)
     
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