Do you use PHP.NET?

Discussion in 'Programming' started by danielspencer2, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. #1
    How do you view suggestions people make at www.php.net?. i made a suggestion for a Visual PHP editor to be developed yesterday(http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46550) and people have voted for it but i do not know how they found my suggestion. i got the url for my suggestion after i submitted it but i don't know how to find it without the url as it is not showing up in the search.
     
    danielspencer2, Nov 12, 2008 IP
  2. happpy

    happpy Well-Known Member

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    the guys from the php-devs are busy keeping the language php itself on top,
    they have no time to make point-and-click editors for laymen.
    what you describe here is in most parts already achieved by dreamweaver+addons.
    there are sure some other php-editors which come close to your description, but i dont know any, cause i prefer writing all code by hand in the texteditor.
    its just the best way to keep hold of your code and have a clean, working and secure site.

    just compare handwritten html to dreamweaver-html... dreamweavers html tends to be minimum 3 times more in code to achieve the same outcome.
    same would be with visual php editors.

    look, which sites on the web are mostly fast loading and stable? PHP sites...
    which ones are slow and often broken?? the JSP (java), CFM (coldfusion adobe) and ASP (mickysoft) ones.
    this is because PHP sites are written mostly by hand, and the latter three are mostly clicked together by an overpaid guy with ultra-expensive "visual tools" - stuff like what you request.

    do you really want php to reach windows-like stability and performance?

    better take a book and some videotutorials and get settled with PHP as it is now, not have PHP to settle with you.
     
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  3. ferdousx

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    php.net is busy with solving bugs and improving php. And i think thats what they should do.
     
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    I agree! The focus should be the PHP language and Zend framework. Other companies have attempted the above with minimal success. Learn PHP and use a real PHP IDE.
     
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    Oldiesmann Well-Known Member

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    There are already dozens of PHP editors available (both free and paid). Why does PHP need to make their own?
     
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  6. Panzer

    Panzer Active Member

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    Silly idea in my opinion.

    With all those graphical frontends your not actually learning PHP.
     
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  7. Aldo

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    Yeah, this seems really silly to me. PHP devs do a great enough job with making the language and such, they don't need to get caught up in this. Thats why other people make them. I use NotePad2 myself, there is also ones like NotePad++ and others
     
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    haha while I agree with the suggested Visual editor being silly, lets keep an open mind and not bash the other languages please.

    .Net, JSP, Ruby, Python, and other languages all have their own uses and benefits. PHP is not the best thing out there. Also, the other languages require just as much hand-coding to achieve nice results, there is no visual editor out there for any language that can just produce perfect code with a few clicks.
     
    manithemoneyman, Nov 15, 2008 IP