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Googlebot/Test Spider Getting External JavaScript Files

Discussion in 'Google' started by digitalpoint, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. #1
    In the last few days, I've noticed a Googlebot/Test spider spidering nothing but external JavaScript files. There have been rumors of Google trying to better understand JavaScript, and it looks like they may be in the testing phase of it:

    I've had requests for .js files within multiple domains from two different IP addresses:

    64.68.89.156
    64.68.89.191

    According to ARIN, the 64.68.89.* block is not owned by Google, but considering Google owns the following class-Cs (which it uses for Googlebot):

    64.68.80.*
    64.68.81.*
    64.68.82.*
    64.68.83.*
    64.68.84.*
    64.68.85.*
    64.68.86.*
    64.68.87.*

    ...I think it's fairly safe to assume that it really *is* Google. Plus it's probably just a new IP block assignment that has not been updated in ARIN yet.

    - Shawn
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 18, 2004 IP
  2. Mr T

    Mr T Guest

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    #2
    Cool, thanks for that. Looks like I will finally have to implement that PHP redirect rather than JS links for affilates :(
     
    Mr T, Mar 18, 2004 IP
  3. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #3
    The spider is requesting a robots.txt file, so you could always exclude your external JavaScript files that way. {shrug}

    - Shawn
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 18, 2004 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #4
    ... unless you <include> your .js from your .shtml files.

    If you do that, the <include> code executes before the robot exclusion code is checked.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 18, 2004 IP
  5. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #5
    No, it would still be blocked... if you have an image directory you choose to block, Google will not spider it, even though the images are "included" within a HTML file that is spiderable.

    - Shawn
     
    digitalpoint, Apr 18, 2004 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #6
    Test it before you deploy it...

    <img src> isn't the same as <!--#include virtual-->.

    I tested non-JavaScript includes and found out that Google indeed did find them, because the include is done server-side.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 18, 2004 IP
  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #7
    Oh, I thought you were talking about a JS include like so:

    <script type="text/javascript"
    src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">
    </script>

    - Shawn
     
    digitalpoint, Apr 18, 2004 IP
  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    That might work like your IMG SRC example, or it might work like the <include> example... I am merely recommending testing. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 18, 2004 IP
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    mobile phones uk Peon

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    So would I be able to put my affiliate links into an external js file and stop google from spidering them with the robots text file?

    Then call them up like in your quote?

    Thanks
     
    mobile phones uk, Apr 22, 2004 IP
  10. compar

    compar Peon

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    #10
    I'm missing something here. Why do you want to hide your affiliate links from Google's bots?
     
    compar, Apr 22, 2004 IP
  11. jarvi

    jarvi Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily related to Googlebot, but a reason why you may wish to use php or js redirects is because some ad blocking software identifies affiliate type links and doesn't display them. Was just reading that Norton Internet Security appears to filter out links with redir or redirect in them and doesn't display anything. I haven't seen this, and am merely passing on some comments from another webmaster who purchased a new computer with the software preinstalled and was alarmed when the text links on his own site weren't appearing.

    Compar, as I mentioned in a thread a while back, I'd rather not pass PR to the merchants when they blatantly compete with me in PPC and SEO, so why give them more of a headstart.
     
    jarvi, Apr 23, 2004 IP
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    #12
    why not just use the new rel command?
     
    Catfish, Jan 25, 2005 IP
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    #13
    If you ask rwhois.exodus.net, that class C is allocated to Google from the Savvis/Exodus/C&W US family.

    The IP blocks 64.68.{80-87}.* you mentioned are anycasted, which means your packets are routed to whatever datacenter is closest to you (network wise). However 64.68.88.0/21 is being routed only to their San Francisco office, which further supports your experimental theory.
     
    symetrix, Jan 26, 2005 IP
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    tycoonjo Banned

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    #14
    goolge don't love me
     
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    netprophet Banned

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    #15
    cool stuff ........:cool:

    thanx
     
    netprophet, Sep 19, 2006 IP
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    #16
    useful info
     
    baybossplaya, Dec 21, 2007 IP
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    #17
    Was thinking the same thing.
     
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    IEmailer.com Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Not again..! It's your second post in two old threads..
    Seems like a spam to me?
     
    IEmailer.com, Nov 11, 2008 IP
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    #19
    I found this thread through google search! DP's advice is like gospel to me.
     
    killer2021, Nov 11, 2008 IP