eWebpages why no PR?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by wwws, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello, long time no post:)

    Checking on some of the nice directories and I came across eWebpages.org and notice there are no PR on this site. I understand that many site have lost their pageranks and this does not pertain to just directories mind you, i've notice this on some of other nice sites I visits.

    I had always check the sites Latest Additions page and it has always added usefull goverment websites that is usefull to the user end. Does Google does not like Goverment sites? and yet at the same time, DirJournal is at PR6 with a PR5 inner pages (very impressive) and it too adds quality sites aswell.

    any info as to why is like that?

    http://www.ewebpages.org/index.php?list=latest
    http://www.dirjournal.com/latest-links.htm
     
    wwws, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  2. Brian1970

    Brian1970 Notable Member

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    Welcome back. A good few sites were penalized by Google most haven’t returned, I can only think of Aviva that has returned. Malcolm had some PR returned to one of his directories but I think it is still hit with a serps penalty.

    Thanks Brian
     
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  3. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #3
    Thanks for the welcome.

    That can be very discouraging on making a quality directory like eWebpages when Google gets selective? or randomingly selecting sites or does it have a reason, me thinking that the owner of eWebpages had, for the most part played the rules?

    As far as i'm concern, I don't pay much attention to what Google does, or try too much on how I can get higher ranking by doing black-SEO-ing. Will do it naturally and not pressured by this ranking system too much.

    I figure, my sites I do what I need to do with it to get it to quality sites and when I say quality sites I don't mean .Gov sites I mean what I like that I would actually visit.

    When people need .GOV sites they will find them in so many ways that a Regular web directory does not need to list them to try to get them a higher ranking because search engines know about this sites and they do rank them accordingly.
     
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  4. mywebsearches

    mywebsearches Peon

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    #4
    I lost count of how many directories don't have any pr and very surprised that some quality directories were included on this big list.

    Anyway life goes on with or without pr.
     
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  5. humm

    humm बहादुर बच्चा

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    #5
    Its just that google hasn't yet hit them. You never know when google strips or gives back your PR.
     
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  6. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #6
    Ewebpages is one of the better general directories out there. It's about time it was removed from its SERP penalty.
     
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  7. Duratec

    Duratec Banned

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    #7
    What if Google doesn't really like government sites? Hmm.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    It's impossible to know how G works, what it did was necessary and we've all learned from that. Very few sites have come back from penalisation. "Don't chase PR, let PR chase you" I read recently. and it sounds good to me.
     
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    steveb Well-Known Member

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    #9
    It's quite obvious why DirJournal has a higher PR. DirJournal has lots of content and articles, so it's more than just a directory. eWebPages, on the other hand, is simply a directory with no other content.
     
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  10. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    Maybe google keeps a few sweet with a handful of informers, they get to keep pr, as long as they snitch on all others ;)

    Theres directories that get displayed here yet never lose pr, dont know how they do it, but dont care either.

    Karma will kick ass one day :)
     
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  11. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #11
    So is Dmoz. So is yahoo. So is many other good directories. A good database of links makes a good directory, it shouldn't need to add loads of extra content to make Google happy. Of course doing so is only a good thing, hence my reasons for such actions ;)
     
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    #12
    welcome back, google penalized some directories,

    1. PR penalty but serp kept - example, ask-dir.com , site-sift.com,

    2, PR & serp penalty ewebpages, directorydump, alivedirectory etc

    3. PR kept but serp penalty exmaple: dirfly.com
     
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  13. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #13
    I had a directory come back. It was penalized on both PR and Serp.
    When it came back, it ranked for its domain name as well as variants of the domain name, and also gained a PR of 2.
    Then just as magically as it came back, it magically just disappeared.
    It was in the penalty for roughly 2.5years before it bounced back, to only return to the penalized state again.
     
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    mywebsearches Peon

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    O.k. Did you try remove, update or fix the reasons why Google penalized your directory?
     
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  15. workshop

    workshop Guest

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    #15
    Interesting.

    What happened to all those who bought PR in good faith? Did they get their money back? Is Alive still selling links?
     
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  16. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #16
    I still see the "latest links" in Alive Dir has a good amount that were submitted recently :)
     
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  17. workshop

    workshop Guest

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    #17
    One has to wonder if they know what they are paying for? ;)
     
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    Absolutely not, as this particular directory did not break any rules of the guidelines. I just think it had to do with the version of phpld it was using, as duplicating was running wild. It is only just a guess on my part because I've no idea why gaygle did what it did.
     
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  19. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #19
    It may be SEO companies. They'll still get the good benefits for yahoo, MSN etc.
     
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  20. workshop

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    Would be an interesting exercise to contact the listed sites. My bet is that they are all part of the same. If not I bet they are not aware that the site is penalised or why? Has the owner cleaned out all the MFA, links litter and spam he had listed before the axe fell?
     
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