African-american or just black?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ncz_nate, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. #1
    Anyone else tired of the political correctness that isn't even correct about black people and how you should call them? Dude, they're black. If that offends you then you are mental. Ok, let's call them black - unless they just immigrated here, they came from Africa a longggggg time ago, not long after Europeans came here actually. Are whites referred to as European americans?

    Personally I believe it's offensive to consider them only part American. Why can't they attain the full status of American and have to be tied down to the status of their ancestors? The ancestors of many blacks in America went through hell just to live here and we are ungrateful enough NOT to consider them American? I think they deserve a little more respect.. from the people walking on eggshells trying not to offend.. the people you shouldn't worry about offending.

    But ofcourse the situation changes when referring to Asians. Asians, usually no matter how long their family has been from here, will always be referred to as Asian. It's odd I suppose we don't just call them brown? Oh but is the color brown offensive? Hmm, things to think about.


    But remember, black is easier to say than african american. Costs about 20 less calories to say I'd bet.
     
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  2. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    Wow, now if that isn't racism, what is????


    (and for those who don't know my sarcasm... oh nevermind, it's pointless....)
     
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  3. mirisaamali

    mirisaamali Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand, why is obama being called "first Black president of usa"? Why that racist segregation? I mean, come on, America is supposed to be the most "Blah blah " country right? Whats all this then?

    I am amazed to hear about this all over the news. Black, black black, so what if he is black? And he ain't black, he is brown! :)
     
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    #4
    I use black because it's easier to say and especially easier to type. If I were face to face with Kimbo I'd probably say African-American, just in case.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #5
    Would a West Indian that immigrated to the US be considered an African-American?
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    You mean if someone was black but not from Africa? I'm confused
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #7
    Let's say the person was black and from Dominican Republic. Would they be African-American?
     
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    #8
    why? if somehow hilllary clinton got elected as president of the usa, can't we say the "first woman president of usa?"
     
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  9. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    That's a great question. That could surely be good reason to call some blacks african-american. Good thinkin' bogart.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Well a black person from the DR has roots from Africa as well, but I don't think you would be welcomed for calling them african-american, but rather dominican.

    I have dominican friends which most would be considered black, they don't mind being described by their color there.
     
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  11. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    Oh.. well if you think about it, everyone in America regardless of color is african america because according to archeologists, the human race originated from east-africa (nowadays Somalia region i think). so everyone has a bit of black in'em.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #12
    IMO term "African-American" is racist. Its pointing out that they were never fully accepted in the society as Americans. People should get segregated on their deeds not by their skin color. To me calling anyone white/black/brown/red etc is racism.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #13
    You were joking right?
     
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    mirisaamali Well-Known Member

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    #14
    Well that's the gender of yours. Calling a man as man and woman as woman is not racist. Have you ever heard that a woman getting angry for being called as woman. :)

    Calling someone black, fat, shabby etc are racist remarks. insulting for others. We had great revolts in terms of color discrimination.

    so in no ways can this be justified.
     
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    #15
    Calling a man as man and woman as woman is not racist, but
    calling people fat are racist? :D
    since when fat are become a race?:rolleyes:

    black american, white american that terms are all over the places, certainly not a racist remark.
     
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    #16
    What part?
    :eek:
     
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    #17
    Isn't Charlize Theron African-American?

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    #18
    I refer to blacks as blacks, whites as whites, etc. I agree with you, Nate, and not the least of which reason would be because I wouldn't want to be continually referred to as "Northpoint, the French-Danish-American Indian" guy. But then, I've never walked a mile in a black person's skin, so I really don't know what kinds of sensibilities attend on various names. I know that the black friends I have know me, as I know them, and none of it matters.
     
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    So agree with that... including the last part highlighted.
     
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    #20
    One of the issues with the term 'African-Ameican' is that the term is used to award affirmative action programs.

    Almost 50% of affirmative action scholarships are awarded to African or Carribean Immigrants or thier children rather than decendants of 'American-Blacks' for lack of a better term.

    Affirmative action was never intended to give special advantages to immigrants.
     
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