The Pirate Bay - Looses IFPI.com because of WIPO hearing

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by joejennings, Oct 27, 2008.

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Do you think the IFPI are entitled to ifpi.com?

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  2. No

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  1. #1
    I know this news is old, but I still think its a cool topic. A year ago (I think) The Pirate Bay managed to get hold of the domain name ifpi.com (this was an anti-piracy company) for one simple reason, the IFPI forgot to renew the domain. The IFPI website was still accessable via ifpi.org, but the IFPI submitted a complaint to WIPO, and they got the domain back. Do you think this was fair or not?
     
    joejennings, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  2. Matt Ellis

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    No, if the domain expired then it should be made available to the first person to register it. At the end of the day, it comes down to whether IFPI is a registered company, if they are, they are entitled to that domain (I think).
     
    Matt Ellis, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  3. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #3
    I personally think that site blows. However, those guys are my heroes! I am a slave to torrentfreak.com Its a great site to keep up with that stuff.

    Nigel
     
    Nigel Lew, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  4. joejennings

    joejennings Peon

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    #4
    lol, The Pirate Bay rules!
     
    joejennings, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  5. arizona39

    arizona39 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    i love tpb and i think that ifpi are not very cool
     
    arizona39, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  6. serialCoder

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    if ifpi is a registered company and they have actually trademarked the name ifpi then they have full rights to the domain.
     
    serialCoder, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  7. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Looks like IFPI never got around to filing a UDRP since October last year. I am
    not able to find it in WIPO or whoever, and it appears they re-registered it in
    February 2008 based on the domain's WHOIS creation date.

    Seems to be a moot issue if that's the case. Feel free to express your disgust
    at IFPI or whoever, and many people (especially IFPI) really don't care.
     
    Dave Zan, Oct 27, 2008 IP
  8. Rory M

    Rory M Peon

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    #8
    Whilst probably not the most ethical thing that TPB could have done I don't think it's fair to have it repossessed as it was IFPI who didn't renew their domain.
     
    Rory M, Oct 28, 2008 IP
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    #9
    IFPI owns the trademark so it belongs to them!
     
    rthomp43, Oct 28, 2008 IP
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    SoftCloud Well-Known Member

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    I got a back order on Google.com







    (joking... I know I'd get sued)
     
    SoftCloud, Oct 28, 2008 IP
  11. Alex Brooks

    Alex Brooks Banned

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    #11
    I was about to reply saying the same thing, their is another similar story where somebody registered "London2012.com" or something and the government want the domain but he won't sell it. I'm not sure it's that domain, but the owner registered loads of domain names alike it.
     
    Alex Brooks, Oct 28, 2008 IP
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    geegel Well-Known Member

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    #12
    It was just a publicity stunt by the TPB, they never expected to actually hold the domain. Typosquatting is typosquatting, no matter how noble the purpose behind it may be.

    Regards, George
     
    geegel, Oct 28, 2008 IP
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    joebert Well-Known Member

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    #13
    The thing with acronym-based domain names is that their almost always ambiguous so in a normal situation you shouldn't be able to claim a trademark on it.

    If I read this right, The Pirate Bay basically registered the domain for nefarious purposes & had no real need for the domain. To let them keep it would have been a gross perversion of the law.
     
    joebert, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  14. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #14
    IBM.

    AOL.

    AMD.

    WB.

    They're acronyms, but they're also trademarks for their respective businesses.

    OTOH, no single party should have any kind of "exclusive" claim for acronym-
    type domain names. Unfortunately there have been lots of challenges on that
    this year, a few of which were...successful.

    Fortunately, many of them lost. But that's because their registrants are able
    to afford defending them against overreaching trademark holders.
     
    Dave Zan, Oct 30, 2008 IP
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    Haha, that must of pissed IFPI off...
     
    lawlipwnyou, Nov 2, 2008 IP
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    #16
    What a bunch of idiots, they deserve to lose the domain. Everyone else in the world has to play by the same rules, they got away because they had the higher paying lawyers.
     
    Pixelrage, Nov 3, 2008 IP
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    #17
    -IFPI owns the trademark so it belongs to them.
     
    ous1332, Nov 3, 2008 IP
  18. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Sigh, must've done something wrong not to find the link. But someone did:

    http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-1328.html

    IFPI met its requirements while The Pirate Bay didn't, so no brainer. So I have
    voted IFPI deserves it, and their claims can be rather substantiated if one is
    interested in looking hard enough.

    Not that it won't stop the arguably average ignorant user from believing that
    The Pirate Bay was supposedly wronged here, even though certain facts have
    shown otherwise. But like I said, many people really don't care.
     
    Dave Zan, Nov 4, 2008 IP
  19. Alex Brooks

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    #19
    IFPI deserve the domain, but shouldn't be so stupid, TPB did this as a stunt to increase traffic to be quite honest and just because it was funny and got people talking about their website.
     
    Alex Brooks, Nov 4, 2008 IP
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    venturefox Notable Member

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    Yeah it was quite a publicity stunt but they already have a massive user base so it wasnt necessary to their success.
     
    venturefox, Nov 5, 2008 IP
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