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The Obama thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by homebizseo, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #621
    Five days left, and the to do list:

    Check if your still registered.
    Ask you Boss for an hour and two off.
    Take your friends and employees with you.

    In College?
    Set up walks and carpooling to the polls, and get out the vote!
     
    Xphic, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  2. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #622
    If you're Republican

    1. Google voter suppression, apply what you've learned.
    2. send out flyers telling people the election has been moved to Wednesday.
    3. Tell people police will be waiting at polling stations to arrest traffic offenders.
    4. Tell college students it will cause their parents taxes to go up if they vote in another state.
    5. Tell college students you can't vote in another state.
    6. Bash FL Governor Crist for extending the early voting hours to accommodate everyone.
     
    GeorgeB., Oct 30, 2008 IP
  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #623
    If anything what we have proved in the last two elections is that the more people that vote, the better it is for the Republican Electorate.
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  4. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #624
    LOL! Well, yep, I'll take the "get out the vote" thing, however it comes. (Excerpt):

    Historically, it's a simple fact, the Democratic party has held a broader mass base than the Republican party.

    This ascendancy during the 20th century was effaced during the Reagan years, regained, and effaced again immediately following the attacks on 9/11. But by 2004 the party had regained a clear electoral lead (33%-29%), and all signs now point to a significant paradigm shift across a host of parameters that does not bode well for the GOP - particularly if it continues on its path to the extreme right, as embodied by the empty candidacy of Palin (or, hell, Joe the Plumber - the guy is on the McCain trail, pontificating on foreign affairs, considering a run for Congress - what has the GOP come to? You know it's bad when even Fox tosses its hands up in a frustrated "WTF?").
     
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  5. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #625
    Jfk handled it perfectly, imagine if bush or mccain were in office during this crises. Thats a scary thought lol.
     
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  6. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #626
    Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 and lost the election because of the electoral college where voter suppression in the right places (and a Republican governor and Secretary of state in Florida) worked out quite well for the Republicans.

    So if we're breaking it down to more voters, the Dems win there too.

    I'm just using your example here.
     
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  7. Bakai

    Bakai Guest

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    #627
    I am not going to read this whole thread so if what I say here has already been said...IT IS BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

    A vote for Obama is a vote for socialism and higher taxes for successful Americans. Period.
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #628
    Al Gore lost in 2000 because he had less votes. PERIOD.

    In reality it needs to be said more often than not. You my friend are correct in both your statements!
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  9. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #629
    Nice to know you don't think electing a corrupt man to be president is important. This clears up a lot.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #630
    You mean his posts and behavior here were not enough to give you that impression alone?
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  11. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #631
    Geez, Mia - relax. I know you need people to hold your hand in your weak attempts to trash my person, but don't worry - you and Simply, a few others, already hold hands. It's OK. :D
     
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  12. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #632
    I am genuinely fuzzy on your math here.

    How is winning the popular vote having less votes?
     
    GeorgeB., Oct 30, 2008 IP
  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #633
    Do we really have to keep going over this? I think I learned this stuff in the third grade.

    Lets say someone gets 10 votes and someone gets 15 votes. If it is not golf, who do you think might win?

    Let me break it down. 15 - 10 = 5

    Since 15 is 5 greater than 10, 15 wins.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=+15+...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    You do realize that the popular vote is not what wins elections in the US right?

    As to the number of votes in the state of Florida that gave George Bush Florida's Electoral votes, George Bush got more votes.

    Lets also keep in mind that had the left wing media not called the election prematurely many more voters may have turned out, and still more might have voted differently without already knowing what they believed was the inevitable outcome.

    In reality here we sit some 8 years later and people are still trying to come up with explanations for why Gore should have won. Meanwhile if those people used the digits on their hands and toes or at the very least a calculator they would finally begin to see the reality that even Gore recognized.

    The person with the most votes per state gets the states electoral votes. The person with the most electoral votes (actually the one to reach 270 first) wins.

    This stuff is quite remedial. Please don't make me go through this again.
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  14. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #634
    Heh heh.

    In your silly little attempt to make it look like I was clueless here you missed what I typed up there. I said:

    So yeah, I kinda do realize that the popular vote doesn't win the election. It was my whole point.

    Now I could go tit-for tat and break down a reading comprehension lesson for you. But eh, my point is made.
     
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  15. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    Stroh Notable Member

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    #636
    Here's a great website to debunkify the myths of Obama:

    www.snopes.com
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #637

    He lost the election because he had fewer votes. You've already expressed several times that you do not accept that reality. You've done it again here by reiterating the point that you discount the fact that elections are won by the electoral college, not the popular vote. You've contradicted yourself by trying to say that Al got more votes, but lost, then come back and say it again, while mentioning the electoral vote but discounting it by both saying "but" and then complaining about alleged voter suppression. (the new buzz word when that there Fox News won't cut it).

    In other words, in your mind - Al Gore still won. In reality he did not. You may believe you know why, but you certainly refuse to accept it, much less admit it without first attempt to disqualify the validity of the method by which our president is elected.

    George Bush got more votes. George Bush won. Good lord man, get over it. He's gone in a few months.
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #638
    Unfortunately nothing there debunks any of the issues raised here.
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP
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    Stroh Notable Member

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    #639
    Are they issues? Or are they elephant hogwash raised by the Grand Old Poopheads.

    Here for your incompetent mind that does not know how to look for stuff.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp
     
    Stroh, Oct 30, 2008 IP
  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #640
    We've been over this before and the Snopes articles. You're a bit late to the party and I'm not interested in going over it again unless you want to provide some actual pertinent evidence that answers the questions already asked and left unanswered here.

    If you'd rather talk about poo poo, I'd suggest finding a different forum.
     
    Mia, Oct 30, 2008 IP