America will be better with Obama as Pesident or McCain?

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I don't appreciate your tone. Is racism not a serious problem over in the USA? I suppose a racist plot to assassinate Obama wasn't really foiled today, either.

And as to your defending creationism, you must be a creationist. Do you really think that the world's only 6,000 years old? I bet you do. I can't stand ignoramuses like you.

The greatest city on Earth.

 

We can agree on that

 

Not really. It is a fact that Obama's father was a African Arab, so by relation and birth, that is a factual assertion with regards to heritage and nationality.

And he did go to a Muslim school, and was raised for a time Muslim. Again, another fact.

What's uncalled for is bringing up the truth, I guess

 

I've been to London, but it didn't measure up to a night in New York! London is nice though.

As far as racism in America goes - I don't think it's that bad at all. Sure, there's a threat here or there. Maybe a racist joke here and there. But racist hate crimes I never hear about. If it was the 60s, Obama probably would have already been dead. One threat from 2 young skin headed boys after all this isn't bad at all!

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Both are nice in their own right. London is dirtier and more polluted however. I find it easier to breath in Manhattan than London. If I could choose a place to live and those were the only two choices, tough call. Probably 60% London, 40% NYC. Too bad Concord is no more, else I would pull a "Absolutely Fabulous" and jet between both.

We've come a long way in a really short time. Father and faster than anyone in history in fact. That said, I think a lot of people over react and cry racism in places where its completely without base. That's where the brunt of the problems exist; in the desire to make something racist when it is not.

In reality, you'll find that most people just don't care anymore. Its a non-issue. Making it one is where problems occur.

 

If only that were true.

Obama's speech on race - a remarkable speech, a speech raising the bar towards healing, and ending what divides us - as "Race Hate Speech"; all the rest. I do not know any other way but to construe these thoughts, and thoughts like them, as racist. Thoughts like this, multiplied by dozens on this forum alone, by millions in the world, tell me we have a ways to go. But I think we're getting there.

On London - awesome city. Blackfriars, Chelsea Kitchen, ploughman's lunches, a million other things - loved our time there, as well as the country (lots of time in the Cotswolds, and points North).

 

Again, not really. A lot of partial facts there. His natural father was athiest, so no relation to birth. His step father occasionally attended a mosque in Indonesia when Obama was visiting there from age 6 to 10. However, Obama always was a christian. IMO that doesn't matter, as christianity doesn't give credibility to anyone, just stating facts.

 

His biological father may have been Athiest as far as his "religion". However, factually and according to his Birth Certificate, he's African Arab. So no, no partial facts. Just the facts.

My suggestion to those of you that continue to defend any claims to the contrary of reality concerning Obama go out and buy his books and read them.

You've given a rather interest look into the typical retort I have come to expect from people that seek to defend reality by re-writing it.

 

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Great job at jumping to conclusions. For one thing, I wasn't defending anything, I was pointing out your irrational fear of others who share a belief different from you. For another thing, no - I'm not a creationist, I'm not even a Christian.

 

I agree with you, Nate; I think that was an improper thing for Masterful to say.

At the same time, I remain astounded those wanting to say Palin's religious views aren't a problem choose to reman silent in light of what has been brought up many, many times:

And I do think such a conflation of "divine mission" and "state action" is dangerous as hell. Or Kingdom Come, as it were.

 

It sounded like you were defending creationism, so I naturally assumed that you were a creationist.

I do not have irrational fears of others who have different beliefs than me. In fact, I don't have any beliefs at all. I either know or don't know. And what I know is, having religious fundamentalists in office is a dangerous thing. Hence the previous statement in which I likened Sarah Palin's potential ascension to presidency to world doom. The woman's an idiot, I'm sorry to say. Just watch this video and you'll know what I mean:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ntEE9Zy-qQQ

Sarah Palin "believes" that the war in Iraq is "a mission from God", and that praying can influence the war's outcome. That sounds far too medieval to me. The woman belongs in the Dark Ages, not at the head of the world's greatest power. Indeed, "Dubya" Bush is similarly stupid. If you can remember, he called his "war against terror" a crusade - much to subsequent regret. He might as well have publically declared war on all muslims!

Religion plays far too prominent a role in American politics, and it's dangerous for such power to be wielded by fundamentalism. In the UK, politicians can't even mention the "G" word. We also don't stand for any romanticism: if Prime Minister Brown were to employ some sort of drivel like, "Freedom marches on!", someone'd probably knock him out!

Anyway . . . Maybe you now see that my statements were not unfounded - or at least that they do bear on sound reasoning. I simply don't like the idea of religious fundamentalism wielding power.

 

I agree religion, especially Christian "crusaders", should be phased out of politics - but until the people stop believing themselves, it will be a tool of lure and manipulation for politicians.

When you said, "because she's a creationist" I assumed you meant as opposed to evolutionist and along the topic of which to teach in schools.