Is Obama A Natural Born Citizen?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #281
    She was Mayor for 6 years and Governor for 2.

    How is that close to 4000?


    or did you mean 3000?
     
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  2. northpointaiki

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    #282
    As I said, before castigating others on "numbers" - whether's it's Palin's "8000 days" or your "North, the town is double what you posted," you might want to slow down. By the way, can you tell me how 9780/6500 = 2? Is this more "Palin-Math?" :p

    Anyway, please detail what in her mayorship of a town of 6500 - as described by the current mayor, something apparently consisting of a "meeting on Monday, and writing checks on Thursday" - is any more qualified to make her the likely acting President of the United States, than the portable hot dog stand guy working the movies for 20 years. Completely serious.
     
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  3. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #283
    Im not going to argue this, It is Obvious that Palin has more executive experience, my numbers may not be exact, but it doesn't change the fact that her experience surpasses his.

    Get over it!
     
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  4. northpointaiki

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    #284
    Which of course amounts to "Ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I'm right!"

    Sorry, man, but you don't persuade. There's a reason why a growing army of even staunch, lifelong conservatives have come out publically to castigate McCain for his choice of Sarah Palin. Here's one:

    You can (and will, I believe) ignore them, but the reasoning is sound. Forgetting her politics, she is simply not fit.
     
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  5. Firegirl

    Firegirl Peon

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    #285
    The link you provided is for US law and it doesn't apply to the point that simplyg is trying to make for Obama's circumstances.

    If you read up about INDONESIAN law it gets a little fuzzy about dual citizenship. It looks like they just passed a law (2006) that does not allow dual citizenship for people 18 and over, but like I said, it's fuzzy. The question is whether Indonesian law allowed dual citizenship, not the US law.
     
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  6. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    And Obama Is? You don't make since. You say she lacks the experience to be VP. But stand firm that a man with less, is fit to be president. GRRRRRRRRR!!! Your Wrong!!!

    Barack Obama whose experience consists of a speech in 2004 at the Democrat Convention which placed him in the national spotlight and three years as a US Senator running for the Presidency.

    Contrast that with Sarah Palin , the GOP Vice Presidential nominee who while Obama has been running for President has been running a City and then a State. Reforming a corrupt State Government, reducing taxes, dealing with foreign entities that have daily business with her State, using her VETO pen to reduce State spending, building an oil pipe line to help meet the energy needs of Alaska and the United States sending a son to the Army and shortly to Iraq and still having a baby and raising a family.

    source: Here
     
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  7. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #287
    Your Experience goes by days. And is flawed.

    Flawed I say? yes I say.

    Why didn't the Huckabee or Giuliani get the nomination. By your logic they where more experienced than anyone on the Republican primary ticket.

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    If you went by days, Obama experience will be over 4000 days.

    This experience argument just doesn't work, experience doesn't mean leadership.
     
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  8. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    Care to elaborate on that number?

    Experience doesn't mean leadership? Are you smoking something? Ok lets put the manager of McDonalds into office then, after all the experience doesn't matter, long as he can lead a few fry cooks.

    Pathetic
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #289
    Again, when people reason with emotion like this, they lose site of logic and reason. Sure, we've all been emotional about different things at times, but when you calm down, come back to earth, step back and reason instead of whine reality shines through pretty clear.

    Yes, Palin has more executive experience. Hell, she has business experience an real world experience as well. But again, there's no need to defend a record that holds those facts true.

    The left would rather poke fun at where the Campaign spends its clothes allowance than take them to task on the issues and records. The left would rather label their opponents as white trash, racist, and more of the same rather than taking them at face value based on the content of their character and historical reality of their records.

    The left would rather laugh in the face of a women interviewer because how dare she ask a question that I should not have to answer.

    Its a two way street, and in the end those indignant to the emotionally charged left see the clear path.
     
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  10. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #290
    US Senate and Illinois State Senate
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    It has just as must to do with what you have done during that time as much as the duration. In Obama's case that would be a whole lot of nothing.

    Probably so that he did not have to be reminded of things they did not agree on like: http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...earch_type=&aq=1&oq=biden+says+obama+not+read

    On the Job Training: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAaLEJwkh9c
    Or that Obama lacks the experience to be president: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMYty1PgHEg
    Or that Obama is not ready to be president: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6HFbyiFlv4

    You just cannot make this stuff up.

    Another 9/11 coming? That's what Biden said about an Obama Presidency.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdZgBJ7YuX0

    What's worse is this moron keeps saying this stuff. Its almost like he really wants Obama to lose.

    Talk about a Flip Flopper
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2qvCfSi-0

    Hell, Biden said he would rather run WITH John McCain!

    Do I really need to go on? Its pathetic. The more I look into this stuff the more I can't stop laughing.
     
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  12. damian.hoffman

    damian.hoffman Peon

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    #292
    Well, when the opposition doesn't even talk about issues, how is the left supposed to respond? When the Republican nominee has gone counter to his voting history and record on so many issues during his campaign, why should it be considered as indicative of his stance at all? And I do see the left taking historical reality at face value, which is why it raises concerns about the content of the right's character. Also, I see far less derogatory labels and BS smears coming from the left than the right this election.
     
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    #293
    do Christians have their own church?
    now check out her actual experience.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP26nV3QFlA
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #294
    You are talking about the left right now, you realize that don't you? It sneaks up on you, I realize. When you lose sight of reality or are fed this drivel long enough you sort of slip into this levorotatory direction.

    Remember that clockwise is to the right. There is a reason for that. Time moves forward, not backwards. With time, anyone can recover from this.
     
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  15. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #295
    Hey, I can post stuff from the primaries too...

    Mayor and Governors arent prepared?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2GYNWyA4w

    Why did McCain pick Palin?

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    Did you listen to Biden whole speech or did you listen to Fox News sound clips?
     
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    #296
    Lets be honest, Biden said some things in the Primaries that he doesn't stand by now. Does this make him a dishonest polician or a liar? It is certainly one of the two.
     
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    #297
    The only laws that matter when determining US citizenship are US laws.

    One cannot lose their US citizenship by accident without intending to do so. This is much ado about nothing.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #298
    I'm not sure what relevance this has. The question was why McCain did not chose what some would considered to be the more qualified candidate for the Vice Presidency.

    It seems you just reiterated my answer. Thanks!
    That is a question best answered by John McCain.

    My nightly viewing news habits are focused on CNN, Headline News, MSNBC and a mix of whatever else is on the net.

    Love how that there Fox News Card is always pulled when an argument is lost. Sad.
     
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    Xphic Active Member

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    The relevance is you take a Biden quote from the primaries about Obama and on the job training. And I took a McCain quote from the primaries about Mayors and Governors and on the job training.


    There nothing sad about it, you linked to a Fox News youtube video. So I said did you just watch the clips from Fox News. So I dont know what Card your talking about.

    If you had linked to any other source like ABC, I would of said the same thing but instead of Fox News I would of said ABC.
     
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  20. northpointaiki

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    Just a note. I see this kind of crap, routinely, and a lot of bitching from certain quarters if those us who don't appreciate such ignorance choose to respond. In the absence of a credible point, it might feel good to play this game, but let's not be deceived, shall we - is there anything else?
     
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