Been a PR4 of PR5 - now it's been nothing for 2 weeks

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by gmo, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello Everyone,

    My site has been at PR4 and PR5 the last 12 months and just a couple weeks ago it went to Zero. I have done nothing different than what I've done before. I have some Text Link Ads, but nothing overdone. I have a BlogRoll area which I don't think is a big deal. Can anyone point out some tips on what could be going on? Sitemap index requests are infrequent.

    Seems that internal pages still hold their PR [like the forum pages]

    Here is the site: www.getusb.info

    Thanks,
    Gmo
     
    gmo, Oct 28, 2008 IP
  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Text Link ads and/or blog roll ads are enough to get your sites PR manually adjusted to zero (Any sale of links is enough to get on google's bad side). The only way you can get your toolbar PR back is to remove all paid links and file for a reinclusion with google.
     
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  3. gmo

    gmo Member

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    The blog roll is just the blog roll. No paid links what-so-ever, so how do you tell google that? I'm telling the truth, but what if they decide not to believe me?

    The only thing paid is under "Vendor Links"
     
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  5. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #5

    You can't sell any links (do follow) without putting your toolbar pr at risk. You could add "nofollow" to your outgoing links - but that probably won't go over very well with the people who bought links. I would also remove any reference to textlink ads.
     
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  6. LinkStrong

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    Text link ads is in googles crosshairs. It is even mentioned in matt cutts blog on paid links. All you need to do to get a list of all the links text link ads has to offer is submit for a custom quote. They then send a list of all the urls you can buy links on. If google did this it would be easy for them to find all the paid links.

    Paid links is not the way to go. Mainly because of google catching on but also because of the recurring payment.

    If a competitor was also looking at your backlinks and noticed some paid links they could have reported you too. It's cut throat out there. Watch your back.
     
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    seowebtips Well-Known Member

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    You can't have paid links on your website and that's why Google banned you.
     
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  8. gmo

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    OK folks - I will pull the Text Link Ads. Question: How do I request to be included again to google? send an email to ?
     
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    cipals15 Well-Known Member

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    There are sometimes irregularities in pageRank checker tools. I experienced that awhile ago but it didn't affect my organic traffic and after 2 days it returned back to normal. Try ipagerank.org's checker.
     
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    #10
    Even paid post with dofollow links will get your PR to ZERO. It is simple to detect paid posts by google. Similar to link farms, a huge backlinks on similar anchor text or dofollow links to any url will identified as link farming. All your links in your blog posts are dofollow. Try to remove dofollow links on your blog post links. Maybe, this will help.
     
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  11. gmo

    gmo Member

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    Never done a paid post.

    So links are: follow, nofollow and dofollow? Is dofollow the same as follow?
     
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    #12
    yes, there are only two kinds: nofollow and follow (dofollow.)

    I wouldn't worry too much about submitting to Google, your site will be indexed again. Also, have your SERP rankings changed or is it just your PR? If I were you and my SERPs were still the same I wouldn't get too worked up over PR.
     
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  13. gmo

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    SERPs are still good and my Adsense seems to be up a little [although usually the case at month end] ... but I love that PR.

    I rebuilt my sitemap just now [wordpress plugin] and it ping'd google - lets see what happens
     
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  15. gmo

    gmo Member

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    Guys - still no luck with getting PR back. Looks like the "reconsideration" can be anywhere between a week to a couple months.

    I read the Google rules about sites and one element lists: Do not make sub domains with duplicate content.

    I do have several sub domains which use a real author who translates the main blog into their native language. Since it's a real translation the content isn't exact, but a true translation, meaning the content is different with natural and native phrasing if there is no direct translation. The authors also contribute some content on their own [about 15%]. Do you think that's considered "duplicate content?"

    Thanks - Gmo
     
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    No, but that would have nothing to do with your PR being manually adjusted to zero.

    It's the text link and blog roll links. If you have removed all paid links (or added "nofollow") you'll just need to wait for the next PR update to see if your PR returns.
     
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    I had a site that was penalized for the exact same reason. You have to ask for re-inclusion and it takes a long time. It's been about 8 months or so, I'm being found for Google searched but my PR is still 0. I don't really worry about it since I'm found on Google anyway.
     
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    I think the sites linking to you using TLA has dropped PR or had put many links
     
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