Biden predicts “an international crisis” if Obama elected US President

Obama will have to stand strong. The US has to much at stake not to. I think Powell endorsement shored up some type of role. I know everyone will disagree but I think a deal was also made along with the race guilt issue.

 

Obama has a lot of deals and that's going to lead to him being indecisive.

I just hope that he doesn't bring back Janet Reno and Madeline Allbright.

Bush made a cuple of good appointments with John G. Roberts and Samuel A. Alito. Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia are good ones. John Paul Stevens and David Souter were Republican duds.

I don't understand way people want more leftist judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.

The quote I took from Biden was accurate and I quoted full sentences.

This was another Biden gaffe. After making the gaffe Biden adds that Obama is brillant. Still doesn't cover up the gaffe.

Biden also said “Watch. We're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy,”

 

The quote was fine that you listed, everyone likes giving out the free pass and cover up.

As far as the judges go, the judges are not robots that stay left or right. Judges seem to move left or right depending on the situation.

 

You can do whatever you like, Bogart. As I said, I understand you have been trying to make every smear on Obama stick for months, now, and this tactic isn't new, just funny, because any of us are quickly able to see the actual quote. (Just the other day, it was Powell's endorsement).

It does convince Biz and no one else, seemingly, so, uh, "mission accomplished."

 

Wow this was a dumb thing to say for Biden. I still don't think it will sway many voters this late in the game, but we'll see I suppose. But with all the talk about Obama's lack of experience, you would think that getting "on the job training as President" would be the last thing Biden would want to bring up on behalf of Obama. He opened a huge can of worms with that statement.

 

We have two set of candidates. Obama/Biden are thoughtful. They consider that there is a possibility of some crisis and will take steps to be ready for it
The other group Mccain/pailin do not think that someone might want to test them and are not going to take steps to be prepared. They are going to take their ideological dreams and run with it.
I do not see how anyone can think that mccain/palin is doing the right thing by assuming that nothing is going to happen if they win. looks just like bush and his attitude in regard to alqada.

 

Not really. The McCain camp sold off their ability to talk about experience in exchange for a gimmick in a skirt a long time ago.

Gimmick FAIL.

It's like a bad Disney movie. Simple Sarah Goes To Washington. Where everything magically falls into place even though she has no clue what she's doing. She fixes all the nation's problems with her jolly can do/you betcha attitude and at the end is held up by members of a crowd for a fun shoulder ride.

It's absurd, and frankly, offensive to the American people. As evidenced by the polls

 

Why not?

If you were genuinley interested in solving your disputes, then you would sit down without preconditions.

 

I know you favor Obama, but why can't you just acknowledge that this was a dumb comment to make during a political race?

 

because it is not. It is ridicules that the republicans still support a guy that does not understand the level of anti American feelings in the world and still could be ignorant to the fact that we can be attacked at anytime. military or otherwise.
The old man assumption that he is immune to this, is reckless on his part. That is just like bush rejecting the warning in regard to alqada when he became POTUS.

 

It was a dumb comment to make politically. It was pure Biden, an exemplar of "straight talk," and one of the reasons I like him. He's right - the comparison to JFK is apt, I think. I recall Kruschev's naive belief he could browbeat the young President, until he had his ass handed back to him.

What I find troubling, quite honestly PHP, is that you raise the question, but don't equally raise the troubling question on the obvious attempt to slant the discussion by some members here. I think you and I would pretty much be in agreement that Biden wasn't impugning Obama, in any way, shape or form. Yet a few members here have tried to make that ridiculous claim. Will you be calling them out for it? On Powell endorsing Obama over race?

I think those of us not in the McCain camp join the resounding chorus across America - poll after poll - that has said it really is sick of the smears coming from the McCain camp. It has helped Obama, decidedly so, but that still doesn't take the bad taste from our mouths all the same. If more people would stand up and condemn the ridiculous smears - stuff like Mia's continued attempt today to literally portray Obama's speech on race as a race hate speech, for instance - you might find members on the other side of the aisle more apt to join you in calling for a transparent dialogue.

 

Yep, exactly. Welcome to the club. First it was Mia, then it was homebiz, then it was debunked, then it was me, now it's you that are the subject of dishonest claims. And probably a few others that don't support "the one" that I've missed.

Biden is doing what he does best. No wonder the Obama campaign has kept him away from the media for the past month or so.

 

Maybe you can explain to us why she-Chaney is not giving any interviews. considering her image as an absolute idiot, she has nothing to lose.

 

Wade, the sad thing is that you've never gotten it. I don't stand on "alliance," but rather, what's on the page. If I smell bullshit - naming Obama's speech on race "hate speech," saying Powell's endorsement was "about race," Pizza's trashing McCain's POW record, whatever - I tend to speak to it; if I feel something is an honorable position in opposition to my own, I bow in respect.

I think it is a ridiculous thing to hold to the notion that this community of adults is moved by lines of "alliances," as you have indicated to me. Not my thing, and I do wish you'd get over it.

 

Not sure who "she-Chaney" is (pet name for Obama?), but I can certainly educate you on Sarah Palin:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/20/politics/fromtheroad/entry4531447.shtml

Republicans...held to higher standards, as usual.

Perhaps you'd like to do some es'plaining now?

 

If she has something to say to the nation other than her usual divisive agenda she can get on the View. In the mean time she is considered an air head by most of the nation

 

No, the sad thing is, that I do get it, Paul. Quite a few of "us" get it. I've seen it, time and again over the past month or two. Perhaps the problem isn't everyone else? Mia (we know what happened there), Myself (I also know what happened there ), Debunked, Homebiz, Bogart and who knows how many others?

I didn't believe you would have anything to say about Biden, after correcting the earlier misconceptions.

Thank you for that

 

Wade, I won't play the rounds. People here know all of us well enough to know what they would conclude, whether I'm generally a fair-minded poster, or just a blind asshole, or you, or any of the others over whom you would wish to construct an argument, are or are not anything under the sun. I can only go by my own conscience.

In my opinion, you think in very limited terms - even here, "I know what happened there" is your presumption of some kind of "alliance with Grim," though I've told you many times this is categorically not how I operate, as I think it is beyond childishly stupid to think in that way, for a fucking web forum. THIS ISN'T A SANDBOX, and I don't see things in terms of a kid's playground, Wade.

Thousands of posts, and I'll say it again - if I see something, my first thought is on the merits of the post, and not the poster. Your memory is selective, and short, it seems to me. Take a pick - would this serve as only one example?

Political expedience isn't what I would call "character." Those trashing Powell for his choice now - saying he's just a dumbass who can't see past his skin color, in essence, were the very folks supporting Powell when it was convenient. Mia's characterizing Obama's speech on race as "race hate" is disgusting, and worthy of contempt. Debunked's lies about what I have said, and haven't said, and endless rounds of accusation - all the way to making a very poor attempt to deride my thoughts by calling me an insane drunk, for example - and dodge, once uncovered; all the rest.

Yet you remain silent. Regarding just this one thing - Mia's trashing of McCain as a "lunatic" - I don't think it is any stretch of the imagination to say that if somebody of a "liberal persuasion" had trashed McCain in this way, you'd be posting a cataract of invective along the lines of "lefty smear," etc.

Other than that, as regards Mia, crap like:

And all the rest, by Mia and just a few others. I won't hoe-over the mountains of horseshit smears, as anyone giving a damn is free to investigate. Enough.

My advice to you is to just live your life, and quit seeing this damn forum as a place to see the world in terms of "enemies" and "friends." If you want to step in such a pond, live with it - I really don't care.

 

But when I make a comparison to JFK it's called an out rage. Everyone was talking about Sara Palin and reporters. Biden has not fielded questions from reporters since he told reporters that Hillary was more qualified, I think it was around Sept 10. Quite the double standard.

 

Biz, as usual, what the hell are you talking about?

When have I said the comparison to JFK is an outrage? Particularly when I've made the comparison myself, many times?