Biden predicts “an international crisis” if Obama elected US President

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    During a fundraiser Sunday in Seattle, Biden said that “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking.

    “Watch. We're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy,” Biden said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081021/pl_politico/14801#full
     
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    Xphic Active Member

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    I want to hear what people think of this. It obvious that the statement is true due to the past two presidents and other presidents as well, but it was a terrible time for Biden to say it. But was that their plan?
     
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    Biden has a big mouth. I've kidded about it before, but seriously, does he have a drinking problem?
     
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    Obama is another Jimmy Carter. You don't make statements like you will sit down with guys like Bashar al-Assad, Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Fidel Castro without any preconditions.

    What do you think is going to happen if Obama is elected President?
     
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    I was trying to avoid 2 threads created the same day rehashing the same points over and over again. But hey what the hell....

    Do you think our enemies will say holy shit it's crazy ass McCain and never attack us?

    How many button pushes do you think it will take for the lone maverick to send in the troops??

    All Russia or Iran has to do is sneeze and war will ensue. I'm joking, but then I'm not :(

    By the way, let me give the FULL QUOTE for you. I'm sure you left off the rest by accident.

    So it was actually a compliment of his character coming from someone who has actually gotten to know Barack Obama very well. And not for example someone who's campaign is desperate and clinging to every word that comes out of Barack's campaign instead of telling the American people why THEY are so great.

    Make no mistake about it, attacking the other candidate exclusively as your campaign strategy is the BEST way to NOT actually talk about yourself when you have nothing to offer.
     
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    Xphic Active Member

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    Lol! I did laughed out loud, because thats what Palin said almost word for word, so names are in different orders I think. And she didn't say Jimmy Carter. It's like when McCain and her said Kissinger never supported that, but guess what he did.

    Remember the five former secretaries of state meeting, that said "without preconditions a must"
     
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    lol, speaking of Palin, the McCain campaign lost it's ability to talk about experience when he decided to pick a walking gimmick in a skirt in a FAILED attempt to grab temporarily disgruntled Hillary voters.

    epic lolz
     
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    The Peanut Gallery decided that it wasn't a good idea to test President Ronald Regean and I'm sure that they feel the same way about Mccain.
     
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    Ok well, as long as you're sure... :rolleyes:

    (rofl)
     
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    Indeed, and considering the clip I pm'ed too.
     
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    Kennedy left a big mess behind in Vietnam, Cuba and Russia.

    Nixon saved the United States ass when he opened the door to China.

    Nixon also saved Israel in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war.

    If it wasn't for watergate which was b.s. anyway South Vietnam would have become another South Korea.
     
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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122462257051655701.html (yeah for a little extra "ouch" this is coming from the Wall Street Journal :()

    Gimmick FAIL.
     
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    What specifically did Kennedy do and what mess did he cause?
     
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    McCain is not Nixon or Reagan. He's a pissed off old man who seems to have a tendency to support anything involving more troops. (That's not a talking point, look at his record).

    Wanna know the irony here? The Republican party of today isn't even a shadow of what it was when Reagan was running things. Yet you are seemingly trying to get us to buy into your delusions that if we elect McCain we'll get something ANYWHERE NEAR Reagan.

    And you're saying this shit like you actually believe it :D :( (funny and sad)
     
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    what's wrong with supporting the troops? No President should under fund the troops period. One of the problem with Vietnam and even Somalia to a lesser degree was that the troops were ill equipped and under funded. The USA will not last if our government is passive. Obama will be tested and "God Willing", he will be able to piece together something that resembles some type of strategy. "God Willing" as Biden put it.
     
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    Kennedy created a mess with Cuba. He wasn't ready to fully support the landing of the Cuban Brigade 2506 to liberate Cuba, but did not call off the landing.

    To make matters worse the Cuban Brigade 2506 was landed at Bahía de Cochinos rather than the planned landing at Matanzas Province. Landing at Matanzas Province would have allowed Brigade 2506 to link up with anti-cuban forces.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Against_the_Bandits

    Brigade 2506 was not provided air support on the landing and they were overhelmed by communist militias and the Cuban regular army. It is estimated that Brigade 2506 killed approx 5,000 communist militia and troops before they were pushed back into the sea and forced to surrender.

    The failed landing directly instigated the Cuban Missle Crisis and many people believe that Castro and the KGB were involved in the assassination of Kennedy.
     
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    Kennedy was unsure on how to handle conflicts but he did understand what was at stake in the Cuban missiles crisis.
     
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    Bogart has a long habit of doing this, and for the life of me I don't know why he believes this would "work" in convincing anyone (well, maybe a member on this thread, but, you know...). It does get pretty funny.

    Bogart's quote:

    The actual quote:

    Bogart, you've done this for months, now. In all seriousness, what do you hope to achieve? Convince Biz?
     
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    Bogarts quote was fine. The world is watching and laughing in amusement. Obama talked tough before and the terrorist or a country will test Obama, and "God Willing" he will hold his ground. Maybe Powell can give some type of advice.
     
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    It doesn't change the fact that Biden said “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking."

    Will Obama listen to Powell?
     
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