Sarah Palin has been caught in yet another lie, filtered through the dark lens of her complete idiocy. Now, a couple of things. As this moron, at best, is apt to do, she is relying on a Washington Times article for her nooze source (yippee! She admits to having read an article, from a, uh, paper!). The Washington Times is owned by the "Rev." Sun Myung Moon, a whacked out, far right, and infamous cult leader. It's apparently another lie. Sarah Palin, the "Good Christian" who mounts hatred on the back of bilious falsehoods. Uh, yep. Can't understand why anyone would take issue with her candidacy.
pugs how do you feel when sara lies to you about not being guilty when she clearly is. Does that Make you feel warm inside. are you happy to have a she-chaney as VP? Mr Mccain can sara come out and play?
I expect this from others, but not you. So maybe I am just misunderstanding something here - where is Sarah lying? From what I read here is she is basing her information on a newspaper article or heresay if someone else told her. That would be a bad idea and put her in the same boat as every politician I have ever seen.
Debunked, the article, coming from a paper owned by an infamous, right-extremist cult leader, is a lie, as it turns out. This is her idiocy, if she stopped there, in relying on such a source. But she took it further. She spoke the words, "we have learned...": "We learned" is a lie, since she did not "learn" anything. And the article itself didn't even go as far as her claim, so she lied again. And it is on the back of both - her gross idiocy, and her lies, that a dangerous amount of hatred has come from her speechmaking - so much so, that calls of "treason," "traitor," and for Obama's death have come from them. And she continues. It got bad enough that McCain himself felt moved, finally, to at least attempt to stop the train he put in motion, by allowing his running mate to promulgate her hate-bait. I don't see how it can be construed any other way, Debunked; I really don't. Let me ask you something. I've raised this a few times, but have heard nothing from those supporting the McCain ticket. As a Christian, is the following a problem for you, or no: and Debunked, you said, "you wouldn't expect this from me." I appreciate the compliment, which is how I take it, but I take issue with the notion that somehow with this issue I've played a propagandist's hand. I'd appreciate an answer as to how, sincerely. To all, actually: This woman is lying through her teeth - from her lies surrounding her strong support for the Bridge to Nowhere through to Obama's "wrench in the Iraqi handover works," lies. The only pass I see is to ignore these, in utter honesty.
she is not in the same boat as other politician. she is an outright moron and she has lied numerous times and lied badly
Ever since you started pushing for the big O, you have changed in your ability to reason impartially. You don't seem to be much different than pizzaman now, except that if someone calls you out on something then you attack. She made a mistake at taking whatever she heard as fact. The big O has done this as well. Just review the stuff said at the debates and then do some fact checking. Shoot, if the factcheck site is only half right you would get the idea. She hasn't shown herself to be any worse at getting information than any other politician including Obama your savior. At least try to be even like you use to be, I miss the old npt who tried to be balanced.
every one thinks she is a moron. even republicans. Now i am sure that there are people worse than her.
Politicians lieing? No Way!! Who'd a thunk it. Guess who told this long list of lies 1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government. 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - L IAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had. 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. 6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even spea k the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons. 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy vision'. 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine. 13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first. 16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. 17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote. 18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it. 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish. 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. 23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within. 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books. 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part. 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office. 28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them. 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in the USA. 30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially. 31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost. 32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't. 33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not. 34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide. 35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time. 36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself. 37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this. 38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. 39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it. 40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon. 42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients. 43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words. 44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities. 45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN. 46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it. 47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent. 48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it. 49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America. 50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart. (disclaimer: i do not claim to believe all of these are true, just making a point)
Debunked, when push comes to shove, you haven't changed, I'm afraid. You ask for evidence, and when provided that evidence, you will immediately leap to these kinds of comments, intended to call into question my person, rather than the substance of my thoughts and posts. Granted, it's in vogue in your party, but I'm hopeful that, too, will pass, with the stranglehold of the religious right in your party, the people Goldwater himself felt was a cancer on the party, and American politics generally. Now, here, I have already provided evidence of both her idiocy and her lies, which is why I discussed, well, her idiocy and her lies; last time, it was: when you were from the start provided with: (Please note the absence of "quotes" or "bolded parts." ) As usual, you ignored it all, leaping to the same comparison with Pizzaman, for reasons known only to yourself: as I said then: And as I'll say here, you previously admitted your childishness: and you continue the game playing, here. I'm just not interested, debunked. Perhaps your Christian morality can justify this kind of crap, but in my sense of things, it isn't justifiable. Moreover, you're not even all that skilled at the game playing, so it isn't even entertaining. I now have you on ignore, and will no longer respond.
Great list. Obama's whole campaign is built on lies and half truths. He disrespects all Americans with his views. You can not teach the blind to see.
the moose hunter is unethical and dishonest. She is also incompetent. But she is funny. and nobody cares about these nonsense that you guys want to talk about
Simply, yes, your (unsourced) cut and paste was from a smear campaign e-mailed around several months ago - I received it from my aunt and uncle, staunch Republicans, who, god love them, in their '80's, are only too ready to accept the smears for facts - much like their younger, though no less gullible fellows foaming the same crap here. Where to start? Snopes, would that help, or will this, too, receive a mere "lalalalalalal" and fingers in the ears? It worked for my aunt and uncle, don't believe anything will stick here. What the hell: Please note that unlike Simply and his "yeah, what he said!" cuz'in, the Snopes debunk does provide ample sourcing to back its refutations up. Next.
hence the disclaimer on my original post, but im sure we will both agree, both sides are lieing. All it takes is a quick google and you will see ample examples on both ends.
Simply, yes - your "disclaimer." As we long ago pointed out, you're "disclaimers" (referred to again in this very thread) amount to "I don't believe the smears, but heck, I thought I'd just post them." The list is the most ridiculous accumulation of loaded garbage I've seen, and that's saying something. Can we please dispense with the notion you placed the lies for shits and giggles? No, Obama isn't a Messiah, as I've said, many times. He presented a gift wrap to the President on illegal wiretapping (and this was big, for me), has softened his stance on Iraq withdrawal (another chink in the armor, for me) and hasn't a chance in hell of paying for a good part of what he hopes to achieve (none of them do). But in terms of ability (across a whole host of criteria), and the overall character of his temperament, there isn't a question in my mind. With the son of William F. Buckley:
That proves nothing again..... I never said I was being childish, but seeing how you think she "lied" I can see how you can think that I "admitted childishness" No game playing here. And now for your usual attempt to attach my Christianity because you can't ever explain your "feelings" as fact. She lied, he lied they lied... How... oh, my "christian morality" can't justify??? Boy this makes sense. I called you on your swing from being a reasonable person to what you have been lately here and you will just attack again. Also, you will continue to bring up past "offenses" that you deemed, which every time I try to re-explain myself to clear up another misunderstanding you will attack again. Each time you try to put into play my "christianity" to somehow induce guilt or ??? I could tell you with all my heart that every response I have had with you has been honest, my clarifying has been honest and I have no guilt over your misunderstandings. Yes, you do frustrate me each time now. To think you changed so much from the time Obama was put into question a couple of months (I think) ago.
She wasn't. Not on anything based in reality. You make some good points in this thread. It's one time when I wished I didn't have to agree with you, but sadly I do. It may be that Obama has officially been exposed with his socialist agenda and "redistribution of wealth" plans: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/10/021724.php And this video of Obama pointedly proclaiming his socialist agenda confirms it. Shouldn't really come as a surprise to most.
It's OK, Wade - I have no issue with being disagreed with, and in fact, if I'm wrong, it's how I learn something new. On the other hand, and I'm sorry to say it, but I don't consider "you're wrong, and not relying on reality" a response, any more than debunked's line (take your pick - NPT is "vague," "dodging," "non-answering," "like Pizza," with a response that is, on the other hand, specific, directly responsive, and grounded in the Governor's policies and actions): Here, she relied on garbage from the paper of Sun Myung Moon. She then embellished what was actually in the article, with her own twist of even that lie. I consider the first an indication of her idiocy, and the second, of her outright lying. As she has done, numerous times, on numerous other issues. You do have an argument that his is a socialist plan. But then, so is McCain's - just for different folks.