Obama's 'Terrorist' Connection according to the New York Times

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  1. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #41
    Can you please get educated :)

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html


    Do you know who started the board where Ayers and Obama worked?
     
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  2. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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  3. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #43
    So you know more than factcheck.org.

    I guess that's like you know more about Saddam's connection to 9/11 than our own government.

    Have you ever thought of hiring out your services to the UN and world powers? I'm sure they would love to know all these details that nobody else knows.
     
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  4. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #44
    So are you saying in your flawed twisted logic that Ayers was just a man in
    Obama's neighborhood? Rolleyes

    If you are you are a complete D_ _ _ _ A_ _

    Two boards, funneling money to his church, Campaign financing, introduction at his house, yea I know defiantly know more than you. Oh wait I'm talking to Grim and everyone knows what he self proclaims he is.

    Give him your free pass will ya,

    You should just get a job
     
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  5. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #45
    I'm not giving anyone a 'free pass' I'm looking at unbiased sources for my news.
    Why would I need to 'get a job?' I own multiple businesses that fund me just fine.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  6. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #46
    1 rolleyes only?


    So are you saying that Obama was not on two boards with Ayers, had a meeting or at least one function at Ayers house and funneled money to his (Obama's) church?

    Using any source.
     
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  7. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #47
    Maverick Maverick Maverick Ayers Maverick Osama Maverick Hussein Maverick Maverick Terrorist Maverick
     
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  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #48
    So guilt by association. Using that standard Palin sure is pretty piss poor herself, hell McCain has been on 'committees' and in the senate with multiple people who have committed crimes, I guess that makes him guilty as well.

    Being on two boards as someone who is local to him does not equate the case you'd like it to be.
     
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  9. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #49
    Wait, so by using your logic here.


    Lenore Annenberg who funded the board where Ayers and Obama worked. And Lenore who stated her support and endorses John McCain. And funneled money to his campaign. Means McCain palls around with terrorist and accepts funds from them right?

    And Lenore Annenberg also believes that Ayers is an honorable man, and she supported his programs in Chicago.
     
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  10. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #50
    Ayers is not an honorable man, wasn't someone implying that Obama did not associate with the man. You guys(sheep) are funny.

    Vote for obamessiah I don't care.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #51
    Never said he was 'honorable' did not say Obama did not ever associate with him either.
    Sheep follow biased info without care of reality, you know like you.
    I'm not voting for him, sorry to disappoint you.
     
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  12. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #52
    I said
    Then got this dumb reply about factcheck
    Then a dumber response
    Yeah they are still more than neighbors no matter how you twist it.


    You can love domestic terrorist if you will, but I don't give them your freepass.

    Here is your sign wear it.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #53
    Homebiz you have posted much more on the issue being spoken of than just these couple of posts. Factcheck.org disputes much of what you have said over the past few weeks, it is not only the few posts you quoted in question.
    Ahh and your insinuation there as you've continued to do is about the same as 'McCain's they pal around'. Being a neighbor makes the 'being on the same boards' pretty much common sense, even if the 2 hate one another if in politics or other causes the chances they will be on the same boards are pretty good.
    Homebiz nobody 'loves' domestic terrorists, the only thing your continued lie here could mean is that yes you are trying to claim Obama is somehow guilty of 'domestic terrorism' because of being on the same boards with a man who when he was 8 years old was radical.
    Aww did you get your crayons out for little old me?
     
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  15. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #55
    Was he on boards or not? Did he send large sums of money to chariots that are a conflict of interest? Was he at AYERS house? You have lost again. A little more than friends. I have never said Obama was guilty of Domestic Terrorism you l_ar. I stated he was more than neighbors as Obama would lead the sheep to believe.
     
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    #56
    Homebiz has McCain been on boards and in the senate with others who have broken the law. Does that make McCain guilty as well? You have insinuated much, much more than simply on the same boards with your posts.
    Not even going to get into that as it has truly nothing to do what you are claiming.
    Who cares? Did many of Bush's administration members shake hands with Saddam? I guess they are guilty as well hey because they went to Iraq and shook the mans hand.
    Homebiz, I have never lost against the likes of you.
    Being on the same board and making an appearance at someones house doesn't even remotely equate to 'friends'

    Oh yes Homebiz you never outright say anything, you sure try to insinuate with your rambling much more than what is reality.




    I have never said a good thing about Ayers, nor have I given him a free pass. The only one I'd be giving a free pass even remotely would be Obama if what you continue to spew was true, since most of it isn't true however I am giving no free pass.

    So either you were simply talking out of your anal cavity per usual, or you were in fact talking about Obama. Which one was it?
     
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    Xphic Active Member

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    #57

    How is that a dumb response!? Did you even read the article?


    No one here is denying that Obama and Ayers worked together on a board, no is denying that Ayers hosted a Meet and Greet for Obama at his house, when he became a board member.

    But saying he started his political career there? WTF? In 2001 Obama ran for Illinois state Senate. And Ayers contributed $200 dollars. And the Meet and Greet was 1995.

    Does this make them more then neighbors? No, it makes them co-workers
     
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  18. homebizseo

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    #58
    Obama said A quote about "neighbors" trying to downplay Ayers.
     
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    #59
    For the record, I don't think this makes them friends by any stretch of the imagination. There are people that I work with who's house I've been too on more than one occasion that I consider more enemy than friend.

    People say they want Obama to talk about the assocaiate, how come he won't answer it!?

    Yet when he does, people say 'why is he downplaying it!?' Maybe because the situation is far more lackluster than it needs to be to be damaging. Nobody is saying they love domestic terrorists or anything of the sort, but that doesn't mean we have to condemn Obama for doing charitable work with the guy.

    And also on a side note that I'm sure won't go over well, I don't consider Ayers a domestic terrorist. I think he WAS a domestic terrorist, and now he's a professor or whatever the hell it is he does. Similar to how if I used to drink everyday I WAS an alcoholic. If you hang out with me 30 years later and I don't drink but instead play poker, you're hanging out with a poker player, not an alcoholic.

    Sorry, but that disconnect in personality labeling bugs me.
     
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  20. Xphic

    Xphic Active Member

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    #60
    Actually he never said that, here is that exact quote from the Democratic Debate, in April.

    "George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about.

    This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

    And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense, George"

    transcript of the debate:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16text-debate.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin



    edit thanks for posting csroster. Thats the type of response I hear, from the people I work with. Republicans, Democrats, and Uncommitted.
     
    Xphic, Oct 13, 2008 IP