Now that Google has dropped the recommendation to submit your site to DMOZ and Yahoo! Directories, (see this thread and this conversation) will you still submit to these directories?
Sure! Well at least to DMOZ, I never paid for submission to Yahoo anyway. The thread and conversation seem to point to Google's increased reliance on Latent Semantic Indexing rather than link volume. This is a conclusion some SEO's have already reached. For myself I find little value in directories with only a few exceptions: industry-specific, spot-on-the-site-topic directories; and, local or regional phonebook-like aggregators such as merchantcircle, hotfrog, magicyellow, etc. Other directories, with few exceptions, don't produce links which persist in Yahoo or Google indexes. If Google and Yahoo don't value them enough to keep them as links, then why should I bother to submit to them?
I don't see why anyone would stop. Most of the SEO experts are still saying to submit to directories, and YAHOO and DMOZ are both still that, directories. DMOZ is still included on many of not most of the 'free lists' as well, and it's certainly worth the 2 minutes it takes to fill out the submission form, or at least, it's as worth it as filling out the next form on the free list *shrug* Though, I agree with them removing those two, as one costs WAY too much, and the other is WAY to hard to get a listing in. Then again, maybe that was why they picked those two extremes to begin with. I wonder if they will now go a year or so without updating their ODP clone again, heh...
directories (including dmoz and yahoo) are still important to increase serps a google employee already replied to the removal: http://groups.google.com/group/Goog...t/browse_thread/thread/f943766fde76e87e?pli=1 Google doesn't want to tell webmasters how they should be actively building links but rather that they should be building website for visitors and the links will come naturally doesn't mean submitting to directories isn't necessary as it is imo
Finally. I only submit non-commercial sites to Yahoo!, someone actually looks at the submission and lists the site - usually. With dmoz, the sites never get listed - so for me I don't think it's even worth the 2 minutes, I might as well write the submission on a peice of paper and throw it in the fireplace, that will acheive the same results.
ohhhh sh*t that made my day Now im of to the "directory nightclub" to get a few drinks.... See yaz malcolm
Dammit, I don't even actually have a fireplace. But yeah, of course I would not try to submit a resource unless it's high quality, why would I submit an unlistable site? And for yahoo it has to be a high quality and a commercial free resource. They will list those for free. dmoz will occasionally but it's so rare it's not worth the try...
ok this thread was informative and amusing until the fireplace mention after that start to be like many threads on this forum these days.My opinion is that google remove the sugestions for this specific directories because: 1)Dmoz editors beg them to do in order not to receive tone of spam from link adicted webmasters(i receive tones of that spam and i am not dmoz editor) 2)Yahoo diretory is not better than many other directories from all aspects,just browse it a while and you will see it with your own eyes. So i believe that they remove their specific sugestions for those reasons and they are not against directories or whatever...
Let me ask you a question... Would you list your competitor anywhere on your site and send them possible submissions? Yes or No Im sure you picked NO thx malcolm
Are you trying to hint at the possibility of Google actually getting a directory of their own so they will not need to rely on their DMOZ Clone?
IMHO, paying that much for ANY link is a waste of money, though your millage may vary. Look around in the other boards here and abroad that discuss the Yahoo Directory and see what their opinions are. I'm listed in several directories (DMOZ included) and I simply do not get enough traffic from any of them (or even all them combined) to be worthy of buying such a link...and with Google no longer liking paid links, no telling if buying it will be good or bad in their eyes...though I suspect that it'll be good for your Yahoo traffic on some level But this is the ODP forum, so keeping this on Yahoo is likely not a good idea. Check out the links in the original post here and ask them... you'll likely get better answers there anyway. Q
Google, Alexa and others have said for a long time that you need to be in DMOZ in order to appear in their directories. So webmasters felt it was critically important to get their sites accepted. That's why they sometimes get so frustrated when their sites don't get accepted into DMOZ for whatever reason. So maybe one of the benefits of Google dropping the recommendation is that webmasters won't feel so compelled to get their sites accepted. Maybe you'll see fewer complaints as a result.
DMOZ is still worth the 2 minutes it takes to submit, but Yahoo at $299 is hardly worth it IMO. In fact, why bother with most directories when you can do article submissions, blog commenting, link exchanges and even better social bookmarking.
I'm not sure what Malcolm was hinting at, but it's obvious to me that Google considers Yahoo as a whole to be a competitor. So it makes sense for them to stop recommending them. I can't see Google moving into directory building, because that would just utterly change the way they do business. But they might see directories as a threat, because some of them have more relevant results than search engines do. After all, it is a form of search.