The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1761
    LOL simply.

    An increased chance of being an 'abortion' from the pill does not state 'only when misused' the chance is still there, simply lessened as the primary mechanisms are more effective.

    I love how you keep avoiding the other form of birth control listed.

    You are flat out wrong, be a man and admit it.
    Homebiz it is not 'out of context' in one breath you are using religion for seperation of church and state because 'murder' is illegal and 'though shalt not kill'.

    Yet again I said 'primarily' not always.

    Yes homebiz show me where I lied. The only thing I see you can show is that you have a habit of stalking users on here and looking up their personal info. Or do you want to 'go there'
     
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  2. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #1762
    Except by explaining to you yet again that an embryo isn't a human, therefor can not be a "child" and as such cant be "murdered".

    Parroting emotional rhetoric might work in your "church" but it doesn't work on people with functioning brains.

    I think if you are going to continue to claim that an embryo is a human you should explain on what grounds, Scientific grounds, That this is the case. Be prepared to back up any statements you make with evidence, Because your "opinions" are as worthless as your "faith" around here.
     
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  3. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1763
    Go to your Profile and click find all post by Grim.
    Are you sure you want to go this route?


    Why are you bringing the same rhetoric into each thread. Yes your faith is worthless just as your beliefs and your religious agenda you are pushing.


    My opinion is not worthless. Shredding a child is murder and the unborn are humans. They are not rocks or a shovel or a piece of shoe leather.
     
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  4. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #1764
    That's a christian site that's either misinformed or purposely giving misinformation. The morning after pill's mode of action is to prevent ovulation, I believe for up to three days, which is about the amount of time that a sperm can live. If ovulation has done occurred then it will not work. There is a theoretical possibility that it will interfere with implantation, about the same as some other non-birth-control medications taken.


    A Dr.'s take on it.

    http://www.religiousconsultation.org/News_Tracker/morning-after_pill_not_abortion_scientists_say.htm
     
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  5. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1765
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    jkjazz Peon

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    #1766
    This is such a worthless argument and I'm not just talking to you,
    stox. What you people are arguing over is opinion. I believe that when the egg is fertilized, it is a baby. It appears that stox and others do not. If the Bible agrees with me, then that is great, but I don't have time to look it up.

    If you choose to call it a baby, then killing it would be murder, would it not? It you do not call it a baby, then it would not be considered murder by you.

    You guys can go on and on about this, but given that all of your arguments are entirely subjective, I doubt that there will be any clear winner.

    FWIW
     
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  7. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #1767
    So we agree. It has to be stopped. Let's vote Obama then :rolleyes:
     
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  8. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1768

    The people pushing abortion try to justify murder because in there opinion its not murder.

    Murder is Murder period.

    I don't think Obama will end the WAR. In fact I believe he will step it up a notch.
     
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  9. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1769
    Ahh so you yet again can not show a single lie I made..

    You also do not deny stalking me, looking into my private info.

    That's great to know for everyone on this forum.
    I figured better use a 'pro life' site against a 'pro life' agenda. The point I was emphasizing from that site also was not the morning after pill.

    I also linked to other forms of birth control as well ;)
     
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  10. NathanCH

    NathanCH Well-Known Member

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    #1770
    What Obama wants to do, like every other civilized country, is help stop terrorism. Both Canada and Britain are fighting in Afghanistan right now to restore peace. But for some reason, the stupid American government is fighting in Iraq. Where Osama Bind laden is NOT, where WMD are NOT and where terrorism is relatively low and unrelated to 9/11.

    Obama was take the troops out of Iraq, and begin a on operation to restore peace in Afghanistan. Canada has been there since the beginning because we have a responsible and sensible government. If we're going to fight a war, I want to be fighting in the right country.
     
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  11. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #1771
    Your opinion is worthless because it's just that, A worthless opinion. What you have to do, Especially as you have been asked to on countless occasions, Is explain on what grounds a small nondescript collection of cells is a human being.

    How far do you think would get if you went to an ethics meeting and just repeated "murder is murder"? You would be laughed out of the meeting and branded a religious fanatic who has no other debate tactics than repeating what his preacher told him and the ability to display monumental intellectual cowardice.

    Iv'e made my case, That a collection of 8, 16, 32 or 64 cells is not a "human being", and as such can't be "murdered". If you want to refute this then you have to present a case as to why a small collection of cells is a "human being".
     
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  12. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #1772
    Well, truth is it's difficult. But not only that. Bush has put the US so deep in less than 8 years (which is a performance itself to be honest) that the next president will need everything in its power to get the country on track again.
    It's always much easier to destroy something than building something.

    Now, don't make me wrong. The majority of american people voted the dude...and twice! So, they like to be in the shit, they like to overpay for gas or to be overtaxed...they voted for the guy...

    But no, it won't be easy for the next guy, for sure...
    All I wish is finally to hunt terrorits instead of going for oil.
    If the US could begin the global war against terrorism, I'll be happy.
    When I say "global war against terrorism", i'm not saying bombing Brazil, Iraq, Australia or Norway...(just to make sure..)
     
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  13. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1773
    Not stalking you at all and I don't go through our old post remember I told you to go through your post. You know where you lie, mislead, and exaggerate.
     
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  14. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1774
    Uh huh so posting my name and an attack on the town I live in is not 'stalking me' for my private info?

    :rolleyes:

    I guess I can tell you to look at you profile and search your posts and it will prove you are a transsexual with pink lipstick using the same logic you use.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #1775
    Just like a democrat, retaliate the truth with a lie
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1776
    LOL
    #1 I am not a 'democrat' so you've lied right off the bat.
    #2 I did not lie in the post you are quoting.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  17. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1777
    What are you talking about now? Are you saying I am a transsexual? Why, Do you have a problem with Transsexuals? Or just transsexuals wearing pink lipstick?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1778
    Nice avoidance that you

    #1 Can not prove your accusations.
    #2 That you in fact have looked into my personal/private info. I wonder how many others on here you have?...
     
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  19. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #1779
    What accusation are you talking about?

    What information?


    Grim move on with the thread.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #1780
    Lets give Sarah Palin some of the limelight that she deserves, after all she is the Star of this thread. For all personal differences, how about discussing through PMs or MSN if you are keen to explore each other's sexuality and other personal preferences?
     
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