The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    #1621
    Damn..now you gotta bring my mother into it :eek:

    It's O.K., I know Republicans are just dumbfounded as to how their hero McCain could be getting his clock cleaned in a Presidential election by a one time, new African American Senator, but your comments wreak of desperation, just like your candidates campaign.

    "How is it possible that so many in America don't think like us ?" you find yourself saying.

    Still , this is not an abortion issue. That has been decided already. You have to make your arguments about the pending issues.
     
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  2. homebizseo

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    #1622

    It's a human.

    It's not a rock or a dog.

    Your mother is a good omen. The only thing she did wrong was allow you to vote Democrat......JK


    What about his white side? Don't discriminant against it. After all, Obama said his mother and her side of the family did more to mold him into what he is today.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #1623
    A dog fetus:

    [​IMG]


    Ain't he cute?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #1624
    it seems that you have lost the debate and i have hurt your feeling. why don't you cry like a good pug.


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    why don't we take the abortion discussion to it's thread. No need to fuc-kup sara's thread
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1023607&highlight=fetus&page=2
    bring it on
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #1626
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #1627
    the fact that is isn't a dog or a rock doesn't automatically "a human". A developing embryo is no more "a human" than the cells that fall off your arse when you scratch it.

    Please don't use your scientific illiteracy as a form of argument, it only serves to embarrass you.
     
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    #1628
    Welcome. How is your economy?


    A human is a human.
     
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    #1629
    It is not very unusual that the offspring starts as part of the mother body. You see examples in reptiles and the fetus could be the way mammals separate a part of their body for reproduction. This seems to be exactly like that. when you cut the cord and after the first breathe it becomes an independent individual human being. we should not look at fetus in the body as an individual because it is not.
    in support of this argument i also point out that when we stop breathing we die.
    for Christian
    the miracle of life starts as the baby takes its first breathe. It is so than you can witness the miracle of life, don't look in the dark for your answers

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    I hope some one brings up my question at the church and find me an answer. Be safe
    it looks like god is pro choice
    for the Christians
    if god made humans and made the mother the carrier and provider and the protector of the fetus then who are you to to override god.
     
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  10. hmansfield

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    #1630
    O.K., O.K....we understand. Every other aspect of your campaign is falling apart and this is all you have to hold on to. A law that has already been decided. It's not good enough for you that you have the right to have, or not have an abortion. You want to legislate it to all of us.

    We get it. Unfortunately, Congress and the Supreme Court DO NOT LEGISLATE BELIEFS.

    The rule on law according to the United States Constitution, not the bible of certain religions.

    So get off it. Your beliefs are yours, your families and your churches...and the other 259,999,999 people in this country have a right to their own personal beliefs.

    You keep sidestepping the fact that the abortion battle is based on religion.

    I will give you a little credit, I too believe that life starts in the womb, based on how i was raised, and my church, but I do not believe in legislating the bible to the rest of America.

    If that , then why the bible ? Why not the Koran, Tanakh ? Why don't we just start legislating laws according to all religions in the U.S. :
    # Christianity:
    # Islam:
    # Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist:
    # Hinduism: 900 million
    # Chinese traditional religion:
    # Buddhism:
    # primal-indigenous:
    # African Traditional & Diasporic:
    # Sikhism:
    # Juche:
    # Spiritism:
    # Judaism:
    # Baha'i:
    # Jainism:
    # Shinto:
    # Cao Dai:
    # Zoroastrianism:
    # Tenrikyo:
    # Neo-Paganism:
    # Unitarian-Universalism:
    # Rastafarianism:
    # Scientology:

    That should keep the U.S. Supreme Court Busy for a while. I am sure they all have different beliefs when it comes to abortion, so they all get a say, right ?
     
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    #1631
    Well done.. An embryo isn't a human though, it's an embryo. it's a collection of cells that contains the information required to develop a human body, Just like the skin cells on your arse are. Just like every single cell in your body is. Just like every wasted sperm and discarded egg is.

    Now go back to colouring in or shoveling shit and leave grown up conversations to people whose arguments consist of more than repeating what their preacher told them.... There's a good boy.
     
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    #1632
    Stox try not to push your twisted preacher on others.



    Very funny Harold. Try not to inject your religious beliefs in others trying to justify murder.
     
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    #1633
    if it's a bitch it could be a hockey mom. it could be her interview and they asked her who is your daddy
    and i am waiting for your answers to my post on fetus
     
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    #1634
    Pizza

    Abortion is murder. Have the child and put it up for adoption.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1636
    According to you...

    Not sure how accurate this is, the number I found from a real quick search.
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_abortions_per_year_in_the_US
    1.3 million more children not being cared for by their birth parent, how many of these will end up in orphanages?

    Or will you take them all in?

    Will you pay for the mothers medical costs, lost wages, mental anguish of giving up the child after it's born and much more?
     
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    #1637
    How about tying tubes. Why should your mother or wife or my mother or wives be allowed to commit murder through abortion?

    Murder is Murder.
     
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    #1638
    And abortion isn't murder, because an embryo isn't "a human".
     
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    #1639
    why? just because your preacher said so?
    i just showed you it is not god.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1640
    It isn't 'murder'

    So a woman who is raped should have had her tubes tied? How about the guy being fixed?

    'tying tubes' also is not 100% effective either...
     
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