Obama's 'Terrorist' Connection according to the New York Times

I'd like to keep it to one thread, Biz. This dilution between the two is a tactic you've been using lately, but I'm not interested. Please let me know where you want this discussed, and I'd be glad to continue it there.

The only "most people" I know are subject to mind control, to be honest, from everything I can tell, and your statement contains the problem: You state as truth - "their relationship was more" - something resting on air and propaganda and nothing more, if the many sources looking into this have credibly made their case.

I know it's hard to swallow, given your dependence on Michael Reagan and his ilk for your sources, but can you conceive of the possibility - it simply doesn't exist? That he's already answered as to their contact, you yourself posted "sources" cherry picking information, and the sources they cite - CNN, for example - called the smear for what it is, bullshit?

 

Guilt by association. Its a mighty big crime. If one is guilty of associating with people with terrible pasts, what must one think of someone who intimately and closely relates to people with felonies in their past and who became horrible criminals stealing from the American Public.

Obviously John McCain is guilty of marrying into a family of such nefarious history. His father in-law was convicted of a felonyfor falsifying liquor sales records. He went to jail. His father in-law again broke laws by buying into a racetrack with a known bookmaker as a partner.

Upon marrying Cindy McCain, Jim Hensley, McCain's father-in-law gave his new son in law a job for which he had no history or credentials working in the PR division of the liquor distributorship. He gave his daughter and son-in law hundreds of thousands of dollars, enabling McCain to run for political office within a district that he had no knowledge or experience, other than the exclusive backing of a powerful and notorious business person that had repeatedly broken laws to get what he wanted.

Years later, McCain, living off of the influences and money that enabled him to become a member of Congress became friendly with the soon to be infamous Charles Keating, whose financial institution collapsed during the financial debacle of the 1980's. Keating used political influence with a number of members of Congress to avoid investigation and prosecution.

Obviously, McCain is not carries the guilt by association of relationships with known and dangerous felons who repeatedly broke the laws, he profited by these relationships and carries them into his position as a member of Congress.

Voting and supporting McCain is equivalent to voting for a guy who would support Al Capone, benefitted by relating to Al Capone, and carried out those practices while a member of Congress.

Ahhhhhh........guilt by association.

 

Did CNN really call it BS.... oh wait they actually investigated the connection instead of saying Obama can do no wrong. CNN: Obama Ayers Connection


CNN also proved that Obama and Ayers were a little more than just "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood"


They worked on 2 foundations and Obama poured money to Rev. Jeremiah Wright black-supremicist "Black Liberation Theology" Church and Northwestern University Law Schools' Children and Family Justice Center, which was Ayers' wife place of employment. To me ,and I know you will disagree but, by Obama funding his church and Ayers' wife place of employment represents a huge conflict of interest.

Obama should have been bragging about the improvements they made while working on the boards together. Schools and Churches were improved or at least giving money. Obama could have used his Jedi mind trick and used his "hope and change" catchphrase to paint Ayers as a former terrorist that changed and is now providing hope. "Ayers is now a saint. "

 

Before I continue, for the second time: I'm not interested in wasting the time to place the same thoughts in two different threads, simply because you are hopeful the fundamental flaws of your views are lost in the shuffle.

Which thread would you like to continue the discussion in, if any?

 

why don't you think about making songbird mccain the president?

 

I have noticed you are avoiding or evading an answer on the issues of Obama, involvement with a known domestic terrorist. This thread is to allow you to give Obama another free pass due to the fact he went to Harvard.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvXEsW4Fgg
pow talk about songbird Mccain

 

Nice try, Biz, but an attempt at wit doesn't suit you well. It's very basic - I'm not interested in obliterating your nonsense, only to have you duck for cover under another thread, created on the same topic. I don't enjoy wasting my time. If you want to stick to this thread, great - you only have to tell me, and I'd be happy to continue the discussion.

 

Nice attempt at dodging again.

William Ayers is serious.

 

Amazing to me that a grown man takes comfort in rounds of games, normally reserved for petulant children. Doesn't it ever get old, simply relying on "I know you are, but what am I," Biz - seriously?

For the final time, I am more than happy to engage in a substantive discussion, on anything under the sun. I'm not interested in more games. Posting answers in one thread, only to have you run for cover and either open another thread, or toggle between threads as the case may be, is something I consider a foolish waste of time, and I won't do it. Your call.

 

so is mccain pow claims. songbird talks too much for someone with such a disgusting history

 

You accuse me constantly of ""I know you are, but what am I," but that is what you are doing in this thread and many times in other threads.

I have clearly shown that Obama was more than neighbors with Ayers, a known domestic terrorist, and that Obama sent money to organization that were a clear conflict of interest and instead of admitting that You are wrong, you throw out a catch phrase and avoid giving a answer.

Typical.

 

Hysterical.

You seem to be hanging your hopes on a video that has been viral goat-juice for those of your particular ilk. How about we just go to the direct sources, and leave it at that?

and CNN:

Whole lotta nothing. Much like the McCain campaign, in my opinion - thrusting something to the center of the campaign that will either amount to nothing (offshore drilling: no impact in the short to medium term, "insignificant" impact over the long term, according to the Department of Energy), or more hate (Palin's vomit of the hate over the Ayres nothingness).

You may prefer to fiddle while Rome burns, but frankly, I think there is more to worry about, so you'll have to fiddle with yourself, I guess. I'm leaving the sandbox, now, Biz. Enjoy your time.

 

and songbird might be in the pocket of the communists. he could have been brain washed and planted as a mole. who knows maybe they have programed him. mccain can be the mole. He can be activated if he becomes president

 

What a load of crap. Consider the source. You lefties swear by the NYT when they write against McCain. Now all of a sudden their words are so easily dismissed?

How convenient for you.

Now ACORN has been caught stuffing the ballot once again for Obama and still you won't see it.

Amazing!

 

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

"I am a radical, Leftist, maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it and my views fall in line with the democratic party”

What is the difference between Ayers and McVeigh?

NPT can not defend Ayers or Obama's involvement.

 

Jazz, you were extremely sensitive to being wrongly associated with others:

And I'd appreciate the same consideration. You consistently speak in terms of "you ______," and ignore that there are a variety of opinions, and individuals making them. Thanks.

Pretty tough to say the NYT was "dismissed" when I posted the entire article, for full review by us all. The article concludes - not much here, folks. The CNN article, also the supposed "source," says it more strongly. The country faces some real problems. It's just not what should be center stage at every Palin rally - is it?

 

Serving on two boards and getting his political start in the mans living room is just some guy in my neighborhood. If McVeigh were alive and not caught maybe he could he Obama and his brain washing.

 

so what. mccaain have lost his marbles. he was looking for them in the debate all around but no luck.

 

Just so what? Always a free pass to Obama.