The Presidential Debate Thread- McCain, Obama,who won?, who rambles off subject more?

Wow! I can't believe, even in jest, that anyone would post quotes from that racists batch of inbred, Catholic Hating, Jew Hating , Ignorant , Uneducated, Red Neck, Skin Head, Natzi's , conveniently hiding behind certain passages of the bible to justify preaching prejudicial rhetoric against everyone , except themselves on this forum.

That forum, the so-called church and the people that propagate all the hate they preach are like something out of a time machine, stuck in a 1920's. silent movie called "Birth of a Nation".
That seems to be the support group that the McCain camp has left. The only ones that think he actually makes sense.
If America is truly divided between racists, and Democrats...Republicans will never win another election till the history of time, or until we are destroyed by nuclear war, and have to start society over again.

Anyone should be ashamed to even give them the link, even just to prove a point. The ignorance and lack of education is astonishing that people still live in that bubble of hate for all mankind, and exist literally as outcasts in American society like some kind of inbred, psudo-religious cult that just hates everyone without reason, but are cowardly enough to attempt to hide their shame behind the word of God to justify it.

A racists that hides behind the bible is truly a pathetic coward of a man....and they really are methed up enough to believe that they, out of all the different types of people in the world, are justified and righteous. What a bunch of morons.

 

I agree with the poster above me. Some of the things shown in those links as well as some of the quotes shown by the poster who posted the links are quite objectionable.

 

Harold, it appears you are saying that I should be ashamed for posting these links. I don't agree. I was as shocked as you, or any person of even reasonable conscience, to see such filth.

Basically, I was sincerely thrown by two posters' comments on Obama's "stuttering," as I just didn't see it - and so, doing a simple web search, with the term, "Obama stutters," I was even more floored to see the kind of nefarious crap brought up under the search term. I thought it was important to put the bright light of day to the scum that is being propagated under what was a surprise to me, this notion, and what may be a new tactic - "Obama stutters." As with, "Obama is a Manchurian candidate/al-qaeda terrorist plant/black nationalist/communist/traitor," something I've devoted a good deal of time and energy on this forum to counter, vigorously so.

If any should be ashamed, it is the people saying this kind of crap.

****

Back to topic, Obama "wins" the debate for the second time.

CBS's poll is more extreme - currently, 83% say Obama won, 15% say it was McCain.

 

I admit, I didn't watch the whole thing. My mind is personally already made up and I pretty much know both of their policies on the important issues. However, in the part that I watched, I thought Obama did what he needed to do to stay ahead in the polls. I don't think there will be any change at this point. I thought most of the CNN analysts at the end of the debate when I flipped back over gave McCain more props for this one than they did the first debate, which was kind of ironic because I thought McCain did a better job in the first debate personally.

 

Just watched most of it, was pretty boring in all honesty.

 

Fox News poll said McCain won 85% to 12% last night.

Not sure where it is now. I take those polls with a grain of salt because of the obvious bias both Fox News and MSNBC have for their respective sides. I just really wish Fox would cut out the fair and balanced nonsense and just admit they are for conservatives. I personally LIKE that Fox is a conservative network because I feel like I can flip to them and get the other side of the story. So why the act?

 

Win or lose is relative to the specific audience you are considering. Most Reps deem McCain the winner because he basically fulfilled their expectations by repeating "We MUST rule the world again... WE are the greatest Nation" and so on, which is the only thing the Rep crowd (OK, not all of them) seem to care about (and understand).

 

It is basically the same story with the other networks. Fox News does have the most bi-partisan viewers of all the major networks. CNN, MSNBC, and others at least lean to the left on their viewers. Granted, I realize that Fox News leans a little bit right and everyone else leans a little bit left. I flip between CNN and Fox News to sipher through all the junk and make my own analysis.

 

I was disappointed in the debate. Neither candidate is being entirely honest.

Once a new pres comes in he is going to have his hands tied with a crappy economy and tons of debt. It will be time to make some drastic changes that neither are speaking to.

 

lol you been saving that one?

Or does it get regular use?

 

I've been watching all the big three cable news networks. I watch MSNBC when I want the view from the left, FOX when I want the view from the right, and CNN when I want the middle.
I know there are people who complain that CNN is biased, but if you actually watch all three you realize that by comparison to the other two CNN is pretty much down the middle.

 

I've always thought that too but never said it here in the forums because I don't want to get into a debate over CNN being in the middle. Frankly I just don't care enough to.

Keith Olbermann would give Obama head if he had the chance and Sean Hannity (though you can tell he really doesn't like everything McCain does) will defend anything McCain does even when it doesn't make any sense. Just last night he said the polls only "seem" to be trending in Obama's favor....

CNN on the other hand has no one even close to either of those extremes.

 

Worst debate every pfff...

 

After the lipstick on a pig comment, Hannity was actually defending the fake outrage by claiming that he really believed Obama was talking about Palin. What a cock. I've thought about creating a who's the bigger cock poll with Hannity and Olbermann as the choices, but didn't think the title would fly with the mods. Maybe I'll change cock to tool.

 

I did one nearly 2 years ago asking if O'Reilly was a wanker. It went down really well.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=211937

Having had nearly 2 years from that post I would have to say that Hannity is even worse than O'Reilly.

 

IMO, O'Reilly doesn't come close to touching Hannity or Olbermann. O'Reilly acts like an idiot, but once you get past the mood disorder symptomatology his ideas and points of view are pretty reasonable. Olbermann and Hannity are just complete shills.

 

Hannity is currently interviewing both Palin and McCain on "fair and balanced" FOX Noobs, looks like they are trying to really push the gruesome twosome out to the masses. Hannity has almost got as much makeup on as McCains wife puts on.

 

Northpoint, I don't think you meant any disrespect, I didn't take it that way. Just a little vigorous discussion. I am certainly not upset at you, just that "church:. Sorry if I seemed to insinuate anything other than my disgust for the actual statements of the people that cal themselves "Children of God".

 

On another note, did anyone hear Mccain say , "I know how to get Osama Bin Laden "? That absolutely floored me more than calling Barack Obama, "That One".

How dare he ! If he knows how to get Bin Laden, then why do we have 160,000 troops in Iraq kicking in doors of people residences looking for lower level fighters. It seems he will say anything that he thinks will get a rise out of people.

If John Mccain knows the location of Osama bin Ladin, yet supported a war (invasion) in the wrong country instead of to America's Public Enemy #1, it should be considered an act of treason.

He also said, "I know how to fix social security ". Again, If you know, what the hell have you been doing for 20 years?
Is John Mccain saying that he has some zen like knowledge that will only become complete with the Presidential seal under his butt?