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    I Wish to sell my site, but i dont have a "BIN" price and im having trouble evaluating it, So can i have Some comments from Bidders & Others who would be able to suggest a fair price Please.

    This is my site:
    http://callofduty5.tv/
    Code (markup):
    Traffic: (Please remember site is 1 month old !)
    visitors: 11,589
    Search Engine Traffic: 6,680
    Landing Keywords / Phrases: 1,577
    Page views: 29,533

    Content: 40+ Unique articles adding 2-3 per day
    -forums & video script installed but are not active yet.

    Revenue:

    -Adsence: $9.98-
    -Mod Chip Affiliate: $29.00-
    -GameStop: (1 sale of a different game, $3- Read Below for more info !)
    -Amazon: (Sold a Wii product lol $5)

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    #1 MSN for call of duty 5
    http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=call+of+duty+5&FORM=MSNH
    Code (markup):
    My site is all over googles first few pages for many, many searches .. "pre order cod5" "order call of duty 5" "order call of duty world at war" lots and lots of words and phrases that is just an example.. (Please google these and see for yourself)

    PageRank Prediction Tool:
    http://www.pagerankprediction.com/?txtURL=http%3A%2F%2Fcallofduty5.tv%2F&submit=Predict+Pagerank
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    no idea how accurate it is.. i have created lots of backlinks & also hype about my site.


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    Each day is seeing better results, and once the game is released the traffic will sky rocket.

    Revenue Extended:

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    Server was ofline yesterday for maintenance that is why no clicks are shown under "Yesterday" (i can update tomorrow) roughly 120 per day is average some days 200.. But they are coming from genuine searches.. So sales will be made, but as it is a pre order i am having a hard time evaluating it. $3-$4 per sale ... so 1000 sales min: $3,000 that is where i am at a loss as where to price my site.

    Now i did this project as it was highly searched but lacked competition at the time, The game comes out in 1 month and lots of people are talking about pre ordering, now the problem with this is that payment is not required until the game ships, So therefore i can not tell how many Sales Ive made, I was worried about my stats as i was referring lots of people to them but no sales were showing. So i called them and they confirmed and said they were impressed with the number of people i had sent them & that lots have put their names down for the pre order, but can not give me a figure as they are not allowed to. But the made me feel better about it anyway so i have pushed on with it.

    I need to know how much to list this for, Ive spent a lot of time researching & developing this site. my traffic is GREAT for a game that is not even out yet.

    Reason for sale is simple: I wish to fund a larger project and i would like to get started asap.

    Now i tried to list this a few weeks ago but only got $20 bidders & a few people adding me to msn and basically trying to extract information out of me so they could try their own. All words used throughout my site we researched to weeks before hand and as you can see the work has paid off with the amount of genuine traffic.

    So please if your interested in this project please BID.. or if you could even reply as to how i should price this site that would be great also, Thank you very much.


    I do reserve the right not to sell if i am happy with the offers all tho i would really like to sell to fund another project.
     
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    #2
    Backlinks.. (Got no idea how so many in only 1 month)

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    #3
    Please if your not a member of DP, do not use the comment feature on my site to place bids, I dont get along well with scammers ! Only genuine Bidders please.. I will not reply to you if your bidding through my "Comments".
     
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    #4
    Site is Officially PR3 now..

    No "BIN", No current end time.. But make a bid and you could profit over the coming weeks, as i need cash now to fund another project. this is a regretful sell but i want to start something else ASAP, This site will pay you back within the first 2 months max

    Starting Bid $400-

    NOT BUMPING* another member said people are probably scared of my price .. starting bid of $400 is not high considering the revenue so far ... and the fact pre order / order call of duty world at war are my main landing keywords and such phrases..

    Anyway i wont reply to my own thread after this if no one is interested, then so be it. I tried to explain it better but im not a salesman .. so if it doesn't sell it doesn't sell.

    Thanks again DP
     
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    #5
    Updating rev & traffic stats as i was asked to by a DP member.. (mods you can check my pm's if you wish)

    Updated traffic stats 30th August to 30th September
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    Adsence
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    Mod Chip sales over the last 30 days
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    Clicks & Orders.. over the last 30 days.. (read below)
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    Now as the are pre orders No sales will show until the customers are charged.. Order & pre order call of duty world at war and bringing lots of traffic as i am on 1st page of google for this..

    The one sale shown in the game sales stats came from my site referring a visitor to gamestop and them purchasing a different game "Brothers in arms" the customer put his name down for the pre order of "brothers in arms" which came out on the 23rd of this month.. the sale only showed up after the customer had paid, but he had put his name down for a pre order on the 11th..

    "order Call of duty world at war" <--- Google that (1st Page) lots of my genuine traffic is coming from that search so lots of sales are & will continue to be made.

    This site is an investment over the coming months, i wish to start another project and need to fund it, this is a regretful sale. But who ever buys its will be able to make a good profit !! still one month before the release & after released and more call of duty world at war searches come about (which they will, as a lot of people don't even know the game is coming out) the sites traffic will be huge... Great potential..

    Gigabyte are interested in sponsoring my site, this came from the marketing department themselves.. I ask gigabyte for a video card to review & then give away in a competition. They are reviewing my site and will get back to me in a few days. This review will go into the new owners hands if they wish to go ahead with this.

    I hope i have explained my self a little better this time.

    To the person who requested these updates i will now PM you.

    Edit: Bid the right price and i will also include FarCry2.org <-- check that out, both sites will be able to send each other traffic
     
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    #6
    Hello, i noticed your site is for sale again.

    My partner and i are looking for purchase as many gaming sites as possible over the next month or so and of course must fit into our budget. Could you please supply us with a (BIN) i see you stated no (BIN) price, having a (BIN) would make it easier for us to stick to our budget. We are very interested in this an too your'e farcry2 website. We are willing to pay you a fair price for these, but a BIN would help close the deal quicker.

    Thank you, Clinton
     
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    #7
    Mate you stuffed me around in my last sale, you have very few posts to your name, your going to have to prove your trust worthy before i even think of selling to you. As i posted in the first post I Do Not Have A Bin price in mind, i asked for people to recommend a fair price for me to sell this for and i cant even get that.

    I would like to close the sale ASAP if you bid a magic number than i will sell but until i get recommendations of how much i should sell for i cant supply a BIN price, Just Bid and when i close the sale in a Few days if your the highest bidder and i am happy with the price you can take it off my hands (Provided your trust worthy, you have hardly any posts !)
     
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    Soctates Peon

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    #8
    Well I'm new here but from what I gather looking around I'd say your BIN price should be anywhere from $100-500.

    But it really depends on what ' you ' think it's worth...

    personally I've never sold a site or anything else on the Net but if I did I would evaluate it's worth based upon:

    1. how much I had invested up to the point of sale
    2. how much the site generates in income, traffic, potential, etc...
    3. how many hours I had put into it's maintenance, promotion, content, etc...

    I would value my labor alone at no less than $20 an hour...

    so, as an example...if I spent 100 hours on the site or in off-site promotion...labor alone would put the sale at $2000

    as I said here:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=9370953#post9370953

    I value my sites at $60,000...is it financially worth buying it at that price?...No, revenue is minimal, although the potential is there...all the same I wouldn't sell them for anything less.
     
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    #9
    Hey mate thanks for your relply..

    2. how much the site generates in income, traffic, potential, etc...
    Code (markup):
    This first of all is my main problem, as its a pre order i cant tell until the (11/11/08, release date of the game) just exactly how many orders i am pushing.. but the work ive done on the site has me all over the first pages of google for order & pre-order call of duty world at war.. and im getting close to 200 clicks a day on the pre-order, now in no way at all am i tricking people into clicking that or anything like that its genuine traffic looking to pre order to secure their copy or to get their hands on the beta version ( get the beta version if you pre order) now people are making noise about my site of so many forums .. playstation forums, xbox forums.. call of duty 4 forums..

    Thats why i am having a hard time pricing .. i dont want to sell for $400 now and fin out in one month the site starts making $200 a day in orders once the game is out and 75% more searches are coming through.

    3. how many hours I had put into it's maintenance, promotion, content, etc...
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    45 unique hand written keyword strong articles (adding 2-3 a day) alot of time promoting it.. but people must just be viewing the site and gong ahh its just a blog (understandable, i agree).

    as for Revenue the last few days are doing $2- a day and growing.. but that is nothing to the ammount who could / should be ordering.

    Anyway i was kind of hoping someone saw the same potential in this project as i have maybe someone a little more business minded, i know its a game site but traffic / stats ..i could of made $8000 from it now (asuming everyone that click it ordered) i know thats not the case, but traffic is very genuine to to say 300 orders have been taken is a real possibility thats about $1000.

    Anyway all i can say is if your interested please BID.. i cant supply a BIN at the moment..

    Traffic updated from this time yesterday:
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    as you can see 1000 new visitors today.. and 800 coming from search engines so really has potential.. im not a salesman i am however a worker so i am really sorry i cant put a BIN to it, and sorry if your not seeing the potential i see in it.

    Any questions im happy to answer..

    Again thanks for your reply you given me a few things to think about.
     
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    #10
    I said sorry i was bidding for a friend, and he purchased another site :( i am sorry about that. i can see you have kept working on it, you have done good job on this, hard to get ranked in msn and you are first for call of duty 5. To prove myself i will send deposit from verifeid paypal account or from my back first, i dont use DP often.

    I will start @ $500 please PM me if i am out bid
     
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    cougarxs Peon

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    #11
    Thanks for your bid, but i am getting higher offers via PM..

    It is preferable if you can BID in the thread an not PM Please & Thanks
     
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    #12
    Can you help move to a gator host server if i buy this ? we just buy large account and move all sites to it. will it be trouble to move and how long will take ? i know you say no bin set yet but can you pm me with an estimate thank you
     
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    #13
    no problem to move the site, now as i am only getting PM's from people i will have a think overnight and come up with a BIN figure.

    Traffics at 1000+ uniques a day.. getting closer to the release date so traffic & sales can only get better, if no serious bidders bid soon i will retract the sale. (was a regretful sale in the first place, but was just trying to fund another project before my next pay check)
     
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    #14
    Dude...i wouldn't sell it for under 5000$ - with all that organic traffic, the popularity of the game, and your google ranking - the income will skyrocket.
     
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    #15
    "jackbravo"

    Thank you.. wasn't sure if i was going crazy or not... but lacking bids in this thread, a DP member mentioned i dont have a BIN and was putting people off.. But hard to tell 60% of traffic coming form "Pre order call of duty world at war" or order call of duty world at war... at a min of $3-$4 a order (depending if normal or limited edition) .... i cant work out a real BIN... 1000+ 60%+ coming from order searches... it will be making a decent amount. Im thinking im listing in the wrong place as all people who have PM'd me either offering me a share of traffic (which i have) or are offering $200- ... its probably making $300 a week ( 300 / 1000 <-- per day) not that far fetched... as mentioned ... was a regretful sale !! really was !! but was looking to fund another Project (big one) before orders started flooding in.. Not scamming like a lot of other DP members was 100% legit !!

    Look i give up trying to explain here i might go for "Sitepoint" or look for a Broker who can sell.. having too many issues here.. people are selling ("Crud / Cr*p) here and making a profit i dont know where ive gone wrong.. i'll offer full support ... full keyword assistants ... full msn support...... 1000+ unique's daily !! <--- i thought that was good ( growing at a good rate too )... ahhh i no good at selling thats why i am a designer / SEO optimizer.

    As mentioned before.. if interested in a Profit over the next few months BID <-- yes BID in thread not PM, no more crappy offers of % for traffic i have Legit Traffic as is... Look:
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    1400+ <------ Uniques coming into the weekend, and i cant get a legit buyer... as mentioned i am trying to fund a larger project... now if a decent offer does not come along i'll retract my offer...

    33 Days old site 110% legit Traffic !! i cant get a legit bid ??.. people selling rubbish here for twice as much, and not even a decent site.

    1400+ daily UNIQUE <--- yes UNIQUE visitors .... even a redirect to a banner page will make a profit... OK my sales pitch is over .. any non scammers / real bidders PM or Reply ( Prefer Reply SO I DON'T SOUND CRAZY )
     
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    OutBackPro3 Peon

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    #16
    here's the problem as I see it.

    #1 you're trying to sell a domain name / website that is less than 2 months old for an unusual amount. Granted you do appear to be geting decent traffic, but with the site only being a month old, it begs the question as to how you're doing it. Most knowledgable people would assume that you're buying PPC ads to drive that sort of traffic and members but in which case, as soon as the buyer acquires the website, the traffic could fall off. There is really no history here to suggest any sort of reliable trend.

    This isn't to suggest that you're doing anything sneaky, its just that the website is so new and the traffic is too much too fast, it causes people to be very skeptable and few are willing to risk more then a few hundred dollars on such a "unique" situation.

    #2 You've got a website that is marketing a product that is not even available yet. How is the buyer suppose to sustain this website after the product is out? are we to just plaster it with amazon and adsense ads? and if so that could mean that the website may or may not make it over time and history is something you just don't have with this website yet and thus few people are willing to risk more than a couple hundred dollars.

    #3 I see that your website is blog - which is nice, but you're targeting a group of buyers that is limited. There are not that many buyers out there who know enough about COD5 to be able to maintain or continue posting to your blog once you are out of the picture and we are left to run the website buy ourself in a few months down the road.

    DOn't get me wrong, I like your website and i am interested to buy it but without an asking price and no history behind it - its a bit of a stretch to "risk" spending more than $200-$500 as your traffic and stats could totally drop to 0 in a month or two.

    In order for anyone to give you an honest and firm evaluation of what you site is actually worth, you are going to have to have some history as projections or speculation are no way an accurate assessment in my opinion. This is why you are getting offers around $200-$500. we don't mean to offend you or insult you or suggest something is fishy, but you have a very rare situation on your hands and if people knew how to get 17,000 members on their blog sites and forums in just under a month, they wouldn't be so skeptical.

    But the truth of the matter is that it normally takes years for this to happen with natural SEM and organic traffic and advertising. If you're using PPC and YOU KNOW WhAT YOUR DOING, it can happin much fast, but the minute the PPC stops - so does the traffic, activity and any sales or income.

    Therefore, if you have a price you would like to suggest, please do so and let people swallow it as they might. Otherwise, I think you are wasting your time trying to "convience" anyone that you are not a scammer. I don't think people think you are, I just think it's the way I just described above.

    My offer is $600.

    And here are my additional comments about some of the remarks in this topic. Let me know what you think of my $600 offer or else please post an "Asking price" and let people deal with it. My personal opinion is that a person would be foolish to risk more than that on a 30 day old brand new website with such "a unique claim to immediate fame" such as we are being expected to believe.

    ...You don't have to sell your website you know. You can always wait and see what happens and then after some history - say 6 months to a year - then you stand a much better chance at selling it for thousands - not hundreds.

    um, not sure how you arrived at that conclusion because the site is less than 40 days old and my PR counter is showing "0". It takes longer than 30 days for google updates.

    I agree with your first 2 comments about what you think its worth and what he "thinks it should be worth", but how much will the market bare is the real question. I think only a fool (or at least a real risk-taker) would risk more than that speculation and "a belief" or simply having to "trust" the seller.

    the problem is that there is no history to confirm or verify a trend in traffic stats. it could be temporary or inflated traffic as far as anyone really knows. I am not trying to say that the seller is doing anything sneaky, I'm just saying that he's asking people to "trust him" and people are hesitant to do that over the internet.

    Additionally, "what you would sell it for" and "what the market will bare" are two different issues. the economy here in the USA is pretty tight right now and Americans are less likely to just flip money around lately as they have been doing the last few years.
     
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    #17
    Updated earnings:
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    doing about $1 a day now and growing. today saw $1.65

    Traffic this month 3 & 1/4 days:
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    now you tell me how my traffic is just going to stop.. :mad:

    "OutBackPro3"

    ( ummmmm yeah call of duty 5 is released in November...) sorry i hadn't thought of this site 2 years ago...dont mean to be smart, but i put a lot of research into this as it was an untapped market i took advantage of this. 165k monthly searches and 1 month ago there was no competition.. all traffic is pure.. im not cheating / doing anything wrong at all !! any serious buyer may analyze my traffic through my Google Analytics account.. as its the weekend 700 visitors in 4 hours today looks like my first day of 2000+ uniques.

    through hard work and a lot of keyword research...

    Call of Duty 5 / call of duty world at war .... 165k monthly searches there was no competition one month ago... thats why i am getting PURE SEARCH ENGINE TRAFFIC !!

    (Any serious.. If the traffic drops off i'll give your money back and you can keep the site !!) its not going to drop off

    Sales of the game for years to come !! people still buy call of duty 1,2,3,4 now many years down the track.. Adsence, Amazon products, be creative up to the new owners..



    As for even using the word "PPC" saddens me, not paying a cent in advertising & i am that far against ppv and related scripts its not funny..All traffic is 200% genuine traffic !! do as much homework as you like.

    GOOGLE: top of page 3 for call of duty 5
    MSN: First for call of duty 5
    Pre order,order,by,purchase...... heaps of searches related are landing on my site most with interest in buying the game or looking for call of duty info.

    What more do i have to do ?? you want me to redirect traffic to one of your sites for a day so you can see how Pure my traffic is ?? my claim ?? come off it look at the stats for yourself...


    any other questions im happy to answer,
     
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    #18
    "OutBackPro3"

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    Please one thing i hate is a LIAR !! now you have pretty much made me look like one..

    your offer has been noted also thank you
     
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    SKULL Prominent Member

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    #19
    Nice site , and great content, i am a COD4 Fan , did not even know they are set to relase a new one already.

    If i was you and that site was mine , i would keep it , the profit and rev you will get out of this site when the new COD comes out would be big!

    Good luck with your sale.
     
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    OutBackPro3 Peon

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    #20
    as I said many times above, I am not trying to call you a liar or a cheat, I am simply presenting some ideas as to why people are bidding $200-$500. I am sorry you are taking it so personal. Try reading my above post from a more neutral point of view and I think you will understand what I was trying to say. I took great care in the way I worded my post so that you would not be offended and could perhaps understand "the buyer" - I was simply trying to help you understand the "buyers perspective" - not insult you or call you names.

    If you are this emotional about your website, then I think you should keep it and I would like to withdraw my above bid for $600 as I don't think I want to work with you if you are going to feel like I am attacking you with my suggestions and questions, when all I was trying to do was help.

    Additionally, my google toolbar along with the following links / screen shots show 0 Google PR for your domain name - please verify. If yours is showing 3 and many others are showing 0, perhaps the issue is that not all google datacenters have propagated - Google is under an update currently...

    http://www.smartpagerank.com/result.php?domain=http://www.callofduty5.tv+ shows 0 PR and so does the following tool: http://www.pagerank-checker-tool.com/index.php
     

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