Everything you hear about the importance of your niche is bull sh*t

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    I can't say how funny you guys are with your good niche / bad niche talks. There is no such thing as bad or good niche, it's content that is either good or bad. Just do some keyword research for every article you write and you'll be fine. While thinking of "i need to create debtconsolidation.blogspot.com to get rich" will do nothing for you. Smart pricing works. I can bet i can achieve better eCPM writing about lady bugs than 95% of you would ever have writing on debt consolidation.

    Use smart pricing as a mean to increase your earnings, not to decrease. It works.
     
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    Totally disagree. My first "real site" was about a subject that I am passionate about. I made a 100 page plus site on it that blows every other site away in the niche. Problem- the cpc sucks so freaking bad that it just doesn't matter. I can make 10 times as much with a CRAP site on a good paying niche with way less effort. If I could take back those hours that I spent on the site I made with passion and place those hours on a dumb tech site, there would be a hell of a lot more money in my bank.
     
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    This is the first time (atleast for me) that a new member (peon) has talked something of sense. All others post by peons ask for "how to make $100 per day sitting on the couch" and all this similar bull.

    Rep to you for talking something of sense whilst still being a newbie...:)
     
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    Thanks Hoster! :)

    Glenndorsey, i agree that it requires effort, but you must concentrate it on importantant things, and i guess you did not with your first site.

    The basics are that people sell things online and people buy things online. You earn in one and ONLY case - you must get between those two. Just think about how to do that and you'll be doing well. No matter what the actual trade is, just get in between the buyer and the seller.
     
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    Hence the need for niche selection. Not all niches have buyers and sellers, and many that do are so non-competitive that advertisers can get all the nickle clicks they want. You can bust your hump on a site that is loved by many, but who cares when your cpc is a penny each?

    I'm not saying that niche selection should only focus on cpc, but if you don't at least take it into consideration you're a fool, unless your goals have nothing to do with income.
     
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    why do you think adwords advertisers pay 10 cents for some keyword and $10+ for others? its IS due to good niche/bad niche reason. highly profitable keywords cost more for advertisers and it earns more for publishers as well. there has always been good and bad niche and there will be always.
     
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    Everyone is an Adsense Expert.

    And that's just how I like it.
     
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    You don't understand. Is lady bug niche well paying by your standards? I don't think so, but i could make it pay me $20 for every 1,000 impressions. You just need to have creativity to think of what lady bug love would buy. May it be jewelery, vw beatle, or anything else. You then write on lady bugs, sell cars and earn money. I'm telling you it works.
     
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    See, you are paying attention to high paying kw's. That's the point. Sure, your site can be about anything, even if it is a crap niche, but you can focus on higher paying kw's to extract some nice clicks.

    You also get that the niche/ kw selection matters. It matters a lot.
     
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    I could understand where you are coming from, but you really have to endure throughout the whole process. You can't just ignore the value of "good niche/ bad niche." Out of 10 people, I would have to say only one person continues to the end while others give up along the way. Good niche/ bad niche is not a big secret. It has been done before, and it is still happening today. Chasing after a quick result seems to not work in my cases. You have to learn how to research your market and learn from many experts.

    Well, anyways good luck with your journey. I wish the best for you. :)
     
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    Well, of course you need to research your niche and keywords. What i mean is that with a quality research made you can earn on ANY niche. So there are no good/bad niches, its good/bad content for the niche.
     
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    Not true. Try to average $0.30+ a click on a celebrity site and prove me wrong.
     
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    Easy done. I would make sure i get ads for selling tickets, then improve keywords a bit further, and the average of $.50 would be achieved. I have lots of similar content on my site (politics, celebrities, sports) and the celebrities section is probably paying the best, or at least as well as sports.
     
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    No way you average $0.50 with celebrities. Do you have channels set to really analyze that?
     
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    I have channels for my overall news (that's politics, celebrities, sports and some other stuff), and that averages for $0.47 per click. But as i can see, i get the most expensive looking ads exactly for sports (tickets to arenas, overseas hotels, etc.) and celebrities (same tickets to overseas hotels, arenas), I also receive something like "learn david blaines tricks" advertising dvd for 49.99$ once in a while, and i think this should be paid not too bad either. The worst ads seem to be policts, i guess i get no more than $0.10 for all these "vote obama", "elections 2008", etc...

    By the way, i think the average of $0.47 is bad, because i still get load of trash traffic. Need to focus on SEs more, hoping to achieve $1+ CPC.

    EDIT: it's not "loads of trash traffic" in absolute numbers, but instead something like 75% of my overall traffic :)
     
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    How many uniques per day?

    Notice how you are concerned with the niche/ kw's?
     
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