Gunman kills nine at school - no, not in the US

This looks like the first time it happens overseas (well with media coverage that is).

I never thought such things happen in schools other than American universities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/23/finland.schools

peace,

 

Itz sad that such kinda thingz take place

 

That's just plain crazy.

It's not the same world as when I was a kid.

 

Sad every time this happens, it however is not anything 'new' nor does it only happen in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

University of Texas at Austin massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 17
Orangeburg massacre1 Orangeburg, South Carolina, United States February 8 1968 3
Kent State shootings1 Kent, Ohio, United States May 4 1970 4
Jackson State shootings1 Jackson, Mississippi, United States May 14-15 1970 2
California State University, Fullerton library massacre Fullerton, California, United States July 12 1976 7
Cleveland Elementary School shooting San Diego, California, United States January 29 1979 2
Parkway South Junior High School shooting Saint Louis, Missouri, United States January 20 1983 2
Cleveland Elementary School shooting Stockton, California, United States January 17 1989 6
University of Iowa shooting Iowa City, Iowa, United States November 1 1991 6
Lindhurst High School shooting Marysville, California, United States May 1 1992 4
Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting Great Barrington, Massachusetts, United States December 14 1992 2
Richland High School shooting Lynnville, Tennessee, United States November 15 1995 2
Frontier Junior High shooting Moses Lake, Washington, United States February 2 1996 3
Hetzel Union Building shooting State College, Pennsylvania, United States September 17 1996 1
Bethel High School shooting Bethel, Alaska, United States February 19 1997 2
Pearl High School shooting Pearl, Mississippi, United States October 1 1997 3
Heath High School shooting West Paducah, Kentucky United States December 1 1997 3
Westside Middle School shooting Jonesboro, Arkansas, United States March 24 1998 5
Parker Middle School shooting Edinboro, Pennsylvania, United States April 24 1998 1
Thurston High School shooting Springfield, Oregon, United States May 21 1998 4
Columbine High School massacre Littleton, Colorado, United States April 20 1999 15
Heritage High School shooting Conyers, Georgia, United States May 20 1999 0
Buell Elementary School shooting Mount Morris Township, Michigan, United States February 29 2000 1
Santana High School shooting Santee, California, United States March 5 2001 2
Granite Hills High School shooting El Cajon, California, United States March 22 2001 0
Appalachian School of Law shooting Grundy, Virginia, United States January 16 2002 3
Red Lion Area Junior High School shootings Red Lion, Pennsylvania, United States April 24 2003 2
Case Western Reserve University shooting Cleveland, Ohio, United States May 9 2003 1
Rocori High School shootings Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States September 24 2003 2
Fairleigh Dickinson University shooting Florham Park, New Jersey, United States April 4 2004 1
Red Lake High School massacre Red Lake, Minnesota, United States March 21 2005 10
Campbell County High School shooting Jacksboro, Tennessee, United States November 8 2005 1
Pine Middle School shooting Reno, Nevada, United States March 14 2006 0
Platte Canyon High School shooting Bailey, Colorado, United States September 27 2006 2
Weston High School shooting Cazenovia, Wisconsin, United States September 29 2006 1
Amish school shooting Nickel Mines, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, United States October 2 2006 6
Virginia Tech massacre Blacksburg, Virginia, United States April 16 2007 33
Delaware State University shooting Dover, Delaware, United States September 21 2007 1
SuccessTech Academy shooting Cleveland, Ohio, United States October 10 2007 1
Louisiana Technical College shooting Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States February 8 2008 3
Mitchell High School shooting Memphis, Tennessee, United States February 11 2008 0
E.O. Green School shooting Oxnard, California, United States February 12 2008 1
Northern Illinois University shooting DeKalb, Illinois, United States February 14 2008 6
Central High School shooting Knoxville, Tennessee, United States August 21 2008 1

Canada
Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28, 1975 [10]
St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27, 1975 [11]
École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6, 1989 [12]
Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24, 1992 [13]
W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28, 1999 [14]
Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13, 2006

[15]
C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23, 2007

[16]
Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada, September 16, 2008 [17]

Worldwide
Ma'alot massacre Ma'alot, Israel May 15, 1974 [18]
Raumanmeri school shooting Rauma, Finland January 24, 1989 [19]
Aarhus University Shooting Aarhus, Denmark April 4, 1994 [20]
Dunblane massacre Dunblane, Scotland, March 13, 1996 [21]
Sanaa massacre Sanaa, Yemen March 30, 1997 [22]
University of the Philippines shooting Quezon City, Philippines February 19, 1999 [23]
Erfurt massacre Erfurt, Germany April 26, 2002 [24]
Monash University shooting Melbourne, Australia October 21, 2002 [25]
Pak Phanang school shooting Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand June 6, 2003 [26]
Coburg Shooting Coburg, Germany July 3, 2003 [27]
Islas Malvinas School Carmen de Patagones, Argentina September 28, 2004 [28]
Geschwister Scholl School attack Emsdetten, Germany November 20, 2006 [29]
Beirut Arab University shooting Beirut, Lebanon January 25, 2007 [30]
Jokela school shooting Tuusula, Finland November 7, 2007 [31]
Euro International school shooting Gurgaon, India December 12, 2007 [32]
Mercaz HaRav shooting Jerusalem, Israel March 6, 2008 [33]
Kauhajoki school shooting Kauhajoki, Finland September 23, 2008 [34]

 

Not only is it not the first time it happened overseas, its the second time in less than a year it has happened in Finland.

 

GRIM
Times have changed
We had a gun club in high school that was supervised by a retired sniper. We shot after school once per week and that's where I learned to shoot. It was not uncommon for guys to go duck or deer hunting before or after school and leave their gun in their trucks while they were in class. Now at the same school they have dogs sniffing for weapons.

 

Mmmm Nice wiki search

 

I know times have changed, gun violence in school however is not a brand new thing is my point.

Several schools around here had shooting ranges in their lower levels, I highly doubt they do anymore.

What has changed is the opinion and 'zero' tolerance policies, lack of respect in some cases for guns among others.

 

this is a bad news

Such people must be killed as they kill people intentionaly.

I suggest the government put penalty of death for any killer, that will cause the person to think a lot before he does such a crime.

peace.

 

There are different forms of 'killing', many also go to prison under flimsy at best cases against them.

If the person is for certain going to die, more reason for them to take even more with them.

 

Most of these mass school shooters kill themselves or plan to die in their attacks anyway. The death penalty is not a deterrence in these cases. This fool shot himself in the head.

 

How is that going to be a deterrent when most of these nut cases kill themselves anyway?

 

If you see a high wall before you, you will not even think of stealing, because you know how hard is the wall (law).

But if you see low wall, then you may try to steal.

death penalty is a high hot wall.

the prison is not enough, because you may think of a plan to get out of it, but how can you get out of the sword when it pass through your nick?

 

Ok Confucius... People that do not care about others lives, don't care about their own. Since more often than not these types of people kill themselves in the end anyway, what kind of a deterrent is death when they don't care?

 

Many of those who kill people, don't kill themselves, that is a fact.

The idea is to prevent the evil idea from coming into your mind.
Of course that is not enough, the people should fear God.

 

Many people convicted of murder are WRONGFULLY convicted FACT.

If they were automatically to die when killing someone, many would go out with a bang and kill more. They would have no reason to surrender.

 

I was referring to mass-murders like this one. It would appear, though I cannot find any statistic, for the most part the people who commit the crime, more often than not end up dead either by their own hand or that of someone else.

That said, I see no logical deterrent. Capital Punishment does nothing more than insure that the person who is being killed will never kill again. If it deterred people would there really be shootings like this?

 

According to the story about the mass shooting in Finland, gun control is very lax there. Almost anybody can own one.

 

Well if it's because gun control is 'lax' I guess they have these happening all the time hey?

Surely if there was gun control one could not get a gun to commit a crime. I know it's the same way here, drugs are banned and damn you just can't find them.