Question on blog posts???

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by drjupitor, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Friends I would like you to clear my doubt on blogposts. How google view blogposts, i mean is it black hat or white hat technique? Or is it in between??
    I dont know if this is the right forum to ask this question, if there is any mistake my apologies in advance.
     
    drjupitor, Sep 24, 2008 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    Do you mean writing blogposts or commenting on existing blogposts?

    There is nothing wrong with writing blogposts.

    Commenting on blogposts could be either white hat, grey hat or black hat depending on how you do it. If you provide useful comments to blogs related to your website, there is nothing wrong with it. If you are just throwing up useless comments to get a link, it is border line black hat. The same applies if you are commenting on totally unrelated blogposts. If you are doing any of this on a large scale I would say it is straight up black hat.

    Since it is something that competitors could do to you, I doubt the search engines would penalize you for this strategy. Probably the worst that could happen is that some links may not be counted if you get too many at once. Also the links on unrelated posts may have less weight.
     
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    nextz77 Active Member

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    Good explanation vansterdam, I do looking this answer too. Now I`m little bit sure why search engine didn't count some link that I have built. How about getting PR with unrelated link? is it count?
     
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    Getting links from an unrelated page with PR counts, but it won't have the same effect as one from a related page.
     
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    nextz77 Active Member

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    what do you mean with "effect"? whats the differences? Is it keyword search effect or unrelated link more weight less than related from getting PR?
    Thanks for the answers.
     
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  6. drjupitor

    drjupitor Banned

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    Thanks vansterdam for your great information.
    I meant writing blogpost for somebody in your blog.
    Your answer is very clear on commenting on blogposts. But i would like to know about writing blog post for somebody in your blog, is it black hat or white hat technique. an answer will be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
    drjupitor, Sep 24, 2008 IP
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    airabongco Well-Known Member

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    Oh are you pertaining to reviews?

    I don't think it's blackhat. It's okay to make as much reviews as you want in your blog to gain money. Blackhat is more on content scraping blog posts.
     
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    I keep reading the question, but it still does not make any sense.
     
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    yurx Banned

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    Yeah its kind of confusing!
     
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    Linking your blog with other blogs.... must have a synergy or congruence of themes, or extention of your thinking, information and understanding... The focus is reader! If it is useful for reader then it should be all white and rosy
     
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    The ideas are good.
     
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    Every legit link, besides passing some PR value, also passes the thematic strength value. There are two examples below.

    (1) For example, if there is an "Airline Miles Credit Cards" text link coming from a PR5 page that is about dog treats, it may pass some PR value but it will penalize the thematic strength value by bringing it down.

    (2) At the same time, if there is an "Airline Miles Credit Cards" text link coming from a PR5 *thematic* page or, even better, from a *thematic website*, it will skyrocket the thematic link strength.

    Now, I am speculating big time here, but from my observations I do believe that there is a certain correlation formula that boils down to something like:

    TLS = TPV + TSV * N , where:
    TLS = Thematic Link Strength (the outgoing link)
    TPV = Thematic Page Value (the page where the link is placed)
    TSV = Thematic Site Value (the overall theme of the site theme that gives the link)
    The TPV and TSV are probably calculated using on-site and off-site factors for the site that gives the link.
    N is a multiplier that adjusts the overall strength value based on the website. For example, a link from ezinearticles.com that has an article about airline miles would benefit less than the link of the same PR but from webflyer.com.

    This is why forum signature links and/or paid template links from irrelevant websites are much less effective, if not almost a zero-effect. But guess what -- because this particular page now contains "Airline Miles Credit Cards" mentioned several times, the links of the other forum member here should carry out a slightly better thematic value than without "Airline Miles Credit Cards" anywhere on this page.

    EDITED/ADDED:

    And just a small follow-up to make the answer complete -- because the blog sites are exremely thematic within a certain niche, using blog comments to pass TLS to the websites that are relevant to the blog is an effective weapon in link building arsenal. This is exactly why in the past Google rolled out the idea of the rel=nofolow -- to prevent those easy, yet very efective thematic links from blogs.

    So, answering your original question, posting relevant comments in relevant blogs and linking to relevant websites does help a lot.
     
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    White hats seo to make results that a long time, black hats seo that their sites may eventually be banned either temporarily or permanently once the search engines discover what they are doing.
     
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    drjupitor Banned

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    Thanks all of you guys for answering my question. But i am still not clear about the answer though it is much clearer now.
     
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    I am so glad that you did not use the label PR for this value. I think that you are spot on with most of your post, except where you did attribute PR as ranking factor.

    I am of the same opinion as you. But would like to add that you are what you link to. Ezinearticles is not a good example however. Their outbound links are nofollow, and the one link that would do you any good is buried and hard to spider into.

    So true. This is why a responsible blog owner is very protective of their comments area. The responsible blog owner has been dealing with spam for years before Google, et al, came in a tried to regulate them for the better good.

    If you come across a Dofollow blog and the owner has allowed comments to non-relative sites, then those links are reshaping the page the links are coming from. It is like a mirror, in essence. If you allow links from 'Johnny Ringtone' and the post is about 'Hannah Montana' ... then a connection is made between the two 'Hannah Montana Ringtones'. Theoretically, that comment from Johnny could rank well for that phrase.
     
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