Many Moslems Did Not Follow Sunnah

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  1. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    You have a point. I guess that different times have different perceptions of what evil is. For example, 1000 years ago, it was evil to be gay. Now it is widely accepted. There are other examples, but you get the idea.

    Slavery was allowed in Islam because at the time, slavery was widely accepted. I guess religion should change based on times.

    In Islam, women must be given a choice if they want to marry or not. I wonder what a 9 year old will answer. I am pretty sure that your opinion will differ if you had a daughter.

    People have different opinions. People hate people for what they are, what they did, or how they did. You need to accept that fact.

    Before you go around fighting for your prophet, do you actually follow what his Sunna? Do you listen to Music? Do you have a beard the size of your palm? Do you pray 5 times a day on time? Do you not have Credit Cards? Do you not use Mortgages? Do you not look at women in the street? Do you not not curse? Do you not joke-lie?

    I would know for sure that your Prophet will want you to follow his Sunna much more than protect him from insults.

    You have got a point. Personally, I agree with girls getting married at early age if they choose to. Even as teenagers, however, they must have the support of their parents.

    Peace,
     
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  2. Bozz

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    #22
    I dont know how do u want me to discuss a certain point with you, while you consider a person who married a young girl as rapper, maybe you see it odd because u never lived that time.

    the time where mohammad was a live, there wasnt many rules discovered, in other words, girls get married earlier becuase marrying earier can help any bad things happening, like sex with other guys or so.


    Im following sunna, Praying is not only sunna, praying is a must on every muslim.
    I pray 5 times, i do listen to music but as u know music differs from any other music, i dont and will never listen to gothic music like very hard rock.
    I do not have a beard, i do have a credit card, i do take mortages, i do look at ladies on the street but not very much. in other words, i do not keep standing waiting for a lady to pass, so i can open my mouth and start looking, i do not curse, do not combine jokes with lies, i dont lie but i joke and jokes are not against any religion.


    but does that doesnt mean i should not protect my prophet.


    i will give u an example, if ur father tells do something, but circumstances made u to do nothing, does that mean u should not protect your father from any threat he faces, although u didnt listen to his word?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #23
    You'd think a prophet from god would have a better insight into what we would think of his disgusting behavior. So the fact that it occurred at a different time is irrelevant, Knowing the future is one of the benefits of being omniscient.
     
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  4. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #24
    In Islam, all types of musical instruments are forbidden. There are clear and authentic Hadiths which proves this point.

    In Islam, having a beard is mandatory for men for your prophet made a clear order to do so.
    In Islam, having any association with interest is far much far worse than having sex with your mother, as your prophet stated.

    Your prophet clearly states that lying is not allowed, even when joking.

    What do you think he will prefer? You following his teachings, or fighting back those who curse him from the non-Muslims?
    How is insulting someone a threat/harm?

    If someone cursed my father I'll probably walk away instead of causing a scene and cause trouble. I am pretty sure it what my father would want me to do.

    Let me remind you of a hadith, where Mohammed was sitting with one of his close companions. They met a guy, which started insulting and cursing Mohammed. Mohammed did not answer back nor did his friend. They sat until his friend started "protecting" the prophet by answering back to his allegations. Mohammed then left the place. His friend asked him why he left when he answered back. He said because the angels were fighting for us, when you started arguing, they left and the devil came instead.

    Peace,
     
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  5. Bozz

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    #25
    Dont ever say he has a discusting behavior! if u say he has a discusting behavior, what would say about people all over the world, muslims, cristians and jewish.



    alright it seems you are mixing up between sunna and Must, sunna is not must its very good to make it, but must is must, like praying, drinking. ....


    yes i agree, but it does not mean any one insulting you or ur father, you go running away.
     
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  6. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    All scholars of all times agree that all musical instruments are forbidden, as so the prophet said.

    Beard is mandatory and not a Sunna.

    I just gave you an authentic Hadtih that you shouldn't talk back at those who talk to your prophet and you are still doing it.

    Keep up on disobeying your prophet, he'll love it.

    Peace,
     
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    #27
    Of course he had disgusting behavior, He had sex with a child, That makes him a paedophile. I would say the same thing about anyone who had sex with a child.
     
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    #28
    Its his wife. not matter her age.
     
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    #29

    this is true and most islamic scholars will agree with this but in that day and age there were no laws, so we as people need to progress
     
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    #30
    Of course her age matters, What a repulsive thing to say.
     
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    #31
    tell me what does it matter if its his wife?
     
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    #32
    Because she was a child. I find it worrying that you think giving her the status of "wife" makes having sex with a child any less repulsive.
     
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    #33
    she was a child i agree, but that time marriage was no matter what age she was, please comprehend.
     
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    #34
    Like i already said, An omniscient god isn't bound by what is acceptable at any particular time, omniscientcy affords one the ability to know that in 2008 people will be repulsed and disgusted by paedophilia.

    Is your excuse really that a prophet from god knew no better?
     
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    #35
    if Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him was alive today, we would keep our chidren and girls of any age with him as an honest holy person.

    You will not know Islam, unless you know what was befor it.

    when you think nicely about Mohammad, you will find him there as you thought, but if you think badly, then you will find him in the opposite side (the good one).

    first, Mohammad got married of Ayasheh when she was 9, and when she was adult and had 10 years, he did what any husband do with his wife.

    what is wrong with this!?

    and, not after 1 day of marrige, nor after 1 week or 1 month, after 1 complete year, he did what any husband do with his wife, (although each husband will do that thing in the first day, Maximum befor the end of the first week of marrige).

    Is this not enough to think good about him?
    of course this is not the behaviour of paedophilia, but it is a matter of bisbelief and hate for that person peace be upon him.

    second, this is not your business, she was happy with him.

    third, there is a famous saying that say "every one see people according to his own behaviour"
     
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    #36
    I can't believe the lack of intellectual honesty that goes into trying to defend having sex with children. I have no idea what he did or did not do - nor do I care. I do know that anyone having sex with a 10 year old girl is, to me, a child rapist. A child of that age cannot consent to marriage or sex and is being taken advantage of. The defense that is is not rape because he was married to her is a sick joke.
     
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    #37
    Seems to put a pretty big hole in the assertion that allah is all knowing and all powerful. Either that or god thinks sex with 9 year olds is A-OK. It has to be one or the other. Not that any of this will matter to believers.
     
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    #38
    I swear the more I learn about this religion and the mindset of its believers, the more disgusted I become.
     
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    #39
    Amazing isn't it. In one week this forum has seen someone defending the murder of homosexuals and another defending the rape of a child, all in the name of islam.

    Muslims do a better job of exposing islam than any nonbeliever ever could.
     
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    #40

    Hey st0x are you close with the KKK? just curious
     
    Realm, Sep 22, 2008 IP